"NOW Do You Believe in Global Warming?"

KWICKO

Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:57 AM

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Children need mythology. It helps them make sense of the world - Temperance 'Bones' Brennan.

Belief requires faith. I am not a man of faith, but of facts and evidence.

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LOL! The irony is so thick, it hurts!

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Irony. I do not think that word means what you think it means.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:45 PM

I'm on the fence about the whole thing.....

I've posted here about how miserable I've been this summer so far without any A/C, and before that I got only about 10" of snow all damn winter and 8 straight 80 degree days in April... The summer before that was nearly as hot as this, but thankfully I was living with family that had A/C so I didn't really notice it.

The funny thing is though, there hasn't really been any other hot summers in the northern midwest since the drought of '88.

I'm not saying that I beleive we're not hurting the environment, in fact I do believe that to be true. All I'm saying is that the last 18 months is not evidence that the sky is falling. I don't believe that we're moments away from our own demise as a species via crazy weather any more than I believe that the Mayan calender ending in December of this year is the end of the world.



I sleep okay at night. Even though half of it has to do with my own financial responsibility, I have the lowest carbon footprint of anybody I know. I don't have A/C in the house, A/C in my 16 year old Toyota is busted, even with these gas prices my average monthly gas bill for my car is 30 bucks, I spent all winter in a 60 degree house and had very low gas bills to show for it, I use about 1,200 gallons of water a month on average, I'm growing my own tomatoes and plan to expand the garden next year, I bring my tweed sack to Aldi (made from recycled materials) and never purchase any of their plastic bags, on the rare occasions I head to a "real" grocery store for some sales, I always ask for paper bags, I recycle everything I can (it's AMAZING how long a bulk box of kitchen trash bags will last you if you do this), and my biggest contribution to the planet is that I haven't had any kids which are by far anyone's BIGGEST carbon footprint in the end.

In the future, when prices drop, I plan on getting a bad-ass solar panel system going. It's just too expensive to do now, but like all tech the price will go down and the efficiency will rise as time goes on. Just playing the waiting game here....


There's really nothing else I can do Niki. I can no more make my family or friends recycle than I can get them to be more responsible with their money. Sadly, that's the human condition in general.... If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If we really are trashing the future of mankind via environmental changes, nobody is going to really do anything about it until it IS too late.

I still think that "The Day After Tomorrow" is one of the best comedies I've ever seen though. I didn't even view it as a comedy through the whole thing until the punchline at the end. Anybody who survived was crossing the Mexican border to welcome and open arms :)

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NIKI2

Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:52 PM

Of course I know that, Sig; I didn't put it up for them. And of course I know that one year's weather--or ten!--doesn't mean much. But it's far more than that, as thinking people have learned:

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• Average temperatures have climbed 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 degree Celsius) around the world since 1880, much of this in recent decades, according to NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

• The rate of warming is increasing. The 20th century's last two decades were the hottest in 400 years and possibly the warmest for several millennia, according to a number of climate studies. And the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports that 11 of the past 12 years are among the dozen warmest since 1850.

• The Arctic is feeling the effects the most. Average temperatures in Alaska, western Canada, and eastern Russia have risen at twice the global average, according to the multinational Arctic Climate Impact Assessment report compiled between 2000 and 2004.

• Glaciers and mountain snows are rapidly melting—for example, Montana's Glacier National Park now has only 27 glaciers, versus 150 in 1910. In the Northern Hemisphere, thaws also come a week earlier in spring and freezes begin a week later.

• Coral reefs, which are highly sensitive to small changes in water temperature, suffered the worst bleaching—or die-off in response to stress—ever recorded in 1998, with some areas seeing bleach rates of 70 percent. Experts expect these sorts of events to increase in frequency and intensity in the next 50 years as sea temperatures rise.

• An upsurge in the amount of extreme weather events, such as wildfires, heat waves, and strong tropical storms, is also attributed in part to climate change by some experts. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1206_041206_global_war
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