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"NOW Do You Believe in Global Warming?"

POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Monday, August 27, 2012 01:07
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Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:36 PM

Means nothing to the deniers, so you guys, just go your way. I know: "It's hot in Summer, cold in Winter". S'arright, you'll die off with the rest of us. Because as far as I'm concerned, we've already passed "tipping point" and any efforts we or the rest of the world make will only manage to hold it at bay for a while. Too bad humans take so long to be convinced of their own impending doom...maybe we could have stopped it if we'd used our brains early enough.

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Back in February of 2010, Senator James Inhofe's grandchildren built an igloo for Al Gore. Inhofe is an Oklahoma Republican and the most skeptical of Congressional climate deniers; he's the one who called global warming "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people." The 2010 winter was one of the snowiest in recent memory — including a massive blizzard that February that became known as "Snowmageddon" — which skeptics like Inhofe happily used as evidence that man-made climate change didn't really exist. So Inhofe's daughter, son-in-law and four grandchildren built a snowpacked igloo in Washington after one major storm, and stuck a sign on it: "Al Gore's New Home."

Fast-forward a year and a half. The weather in Washington is extreme again, but this time it's brutally hot, with the city in early July setting a record for the most consecutive 95 F plus days in a row — ten of them lined in a hyperthermic murderer's row. And the heat isn't confined to the nation's capital; over the past few weeks, just about every part of the country except for the Pacific Northwest has experienced unusually high temperatures. The national weather map looks like a U.S.-shaped burn mark. To environmentalists, the summer of 2012 is climate change in action — which led the green group 350.org to plan an ice-based stunt of their own. Activists were going to build an ice sculpture of the word "HOAX?" on July 7 in front of Capitol Hill, then let it melt in Washington's triple-digit heat.

In the end, 350.org decided not to go ahead with the ice-melting event. (The group's executive director Bill McKibben ultimately worried that the protest would be seen as insensitive given the very real human toll of the heat wave.) But HOAX in ice and Al Gore's igloo both underscore the way that the weather, more than anything else, drives our belief in climate change — and our uneven commitment to doing something about it. After the exceedingly mild winter just past and a warm spring that started early, one Yale University study found that 66% of Americans said they believe in climate change, up from 57% in January 2010 — right in the middle of that snowy winter. If we check in with the American public after another snowmageddon, expect the figure to fall again.

But it's a mistake to look at climate change only through the lens of public opinion polls, because what's happening right now in the U.S. really is out of the ordinary — assuming that ordinary still applies. More than 2 million acres have been burned in massive wildfires in much of the West, more than 110 million people were living under extreme heat advisories at the end of June and more than two-thirds of the country is experiencing drought. Last month, 3,215 daily high temperature records were set nationwide — and that's nothing compared to the 15,000 set in March. The 12 months ending in May were the warmest 12 continuous months on record in the U.S. "What we see now is what global warming really looks like," says Michael Oppenheimer, a climate expert and a professor at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School. "The heat, the fires, these kinds of environmental disasters."

This isn't to say that climate change is directly causing the extreme heat that's been suffocating much of the U.S. this summer. Fingerprinting a single extreme weather event as evidence of glo

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KPO
Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:54 PM

We shouldn't focus too much on what the weather is doing. It can vary from unseasonably warm to freakishly cold, and may or may not have anything to do with climate change. We should focus on all the scientific data that we have - data that paints a clear picture of a warming planet with more extreme weather patterns globally.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:40 PM

Hello,

I believe that polluting less and using renewable energy are items that can be sold on their own merits, using purely selfish motivators.

So if the problem is solveable, it can be solved even if people remain ignorant or apathetic about it.

--Anthony





Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

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Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:40 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
I know: "It's hot in Summer, cold in Winter". S'arright, you'll die off with the rest of us. Because as far as I'm concerned, we've already passed "tipping point" and any efforts we or the rest of the world make will only manage to hold it at bay for a while.


The real problem here is that you've made the Sun God angry. Why just the other day there was a thunderstorm...thunder! Proof that we have offended the mighty one. The next day it was hot outside and did not rain. More proof. Then...(whisper) the sun rose in the east and set in the west...(shudders).

Somebody find a virgin, a goat, and a copy of 'Polytheism for Dummies'.

H

Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:29 PM


Islands in the Sky

I believe the super rich will build habitats in space & underground.

The masses will be left to fry. Maybe rightly so, idiot sheep.

ETA: "Nothing lasts forever, but the earth and sky!"

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I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. ~Charles R Swindoll

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Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:16 PM


Nope.

Children need mythology. It helps them make sense of the world - Temperance 'Bones' Brennan.

Belief requires faith. I am not a man of faith, but of facts and evidence.

Check back w/ me in 50 years, and I'll give you an answer.


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:16 PM

No I don't, but I believe in Bigfoot and UFO's

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Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:46 AM

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:

So if the problem is solveable, it can be solved even if people remain ignorant or apathetic about it.

--Anthony




Yeaaaah, we can save the planet...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2171602/Workmen-destroy-20-000
-rare-turtle-eggs-bulldozers-hit-beach.html

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Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:00 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Children need mythology. It helps them make sense of the world - Temperance 'Bones' Brennan.

Belief requires faith. I am not a man of faith, but of facts and evidence.



LOL! The irony is so thick, it hurts!


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:29 AM

Ask me again a hundred years from now.....if we have record heat waves EVERY YEAR.

...better worlds, all better worlds.

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