THERE...ARE....FOUR....LIGHTS!
POSTED BY: WULFENSTAR
UPDATED: Friday, June 1, 2012 16:18
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This thread. 
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero
"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
This thread.
How so ?
" We're all just folk. " - Mal
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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"I've never actually watched Star Trek, it's not something that interests me. But, I do live and breathe tvtropes, so I've heard this one before.
My understanding is that Captain Picard was being held captive by some nasties, who were torturing him unto the breaking point to try to get his mind pliable. Their test was that they would flash four lights, and force him to believe there were five.
Captain Picard manages to resist to an extent, even insists there are only four lights. But later on, he admits, in a quiet despair, that at one point, his mind tricked him into seeing five despite his protestations.
Kind of depressing."
Exactly.
Yet, DESPITE the constant attempts at brainwashing, DESPITE the constant haranguing and bitching and whining from the liberals/progressives/socialists/communists...
DESPITE the lies, DESPITE the propaganda.............
THERE. ARE. FOUR. LIGHTS!
"None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you... YOU are locked in here with ME."
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Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:
DESPITE the lies, DESPITE the propaganda.............
THERE. ARE. FOUR. LIGHTS!
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Originally posted by WULFENSTAR:
What I hear when I read/hear the liberal "news".
Yup, dispite all the misinformation from the Right the so called liberal news is still telling the facts.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Yup, dispite all the misinformation from the Right the so called liberal news is still telling the facts.
Like Dan Rather's 'fake but accurate' documents ?
Or how one networked called the 2000 elections, for Gore, before the polls in western FL had closed ?
There's bias and spin enough for all, but when the MSM is so vastly outweighed by the Left, the spin they produce gets repeated far more often, and repeated , as 'fact', than anything coming out of FOX.
" We're all just folk. " - Mal
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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Actually the analogy is a particularly poor one. Watching the Fox news may be excruciating, but it is nothing being tortured to the point of complete psychological breakdown, where reality becomes distorted. It is, like its predecessor 1984, damning torture and tyranny, but this particular scene is not about the affect of misinformation.
1984 contains many such examples that you might have used. The fact that there is an electronic media system which enables facts to be rewritten after events to show the tyrannical government in a positive light, the manipulation of language to create a universal mind set of the people of Ingsoc, were brilliant and pertinent theories that Orwell put into his narrative and are particularly applicable today. Newspeak is todays soundbites.
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Right on, Magons. But you see, Wulf just looks for something he can use--and since his mentality is superficial, he's only seen or read the superficial. Especially fantasy, science fiction, and anything with a "hero" in it. I'm not sure he's ever even HEARD of 1984, much less is familiar with all the brilliance of it. You will only get the simple and the superficial from both he and Raptor; one should never expect more.
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Originally posted by Niki2:
Right on, Magons. But you see, Wulf just looks for something he can use--and since his mentality is superficial, he's only seen or read the superficial. Especially fantasy, science fiction, and anything with a "hero" in it. I'm not sure he's ever even HEARD of 1984, much less is familiar with all the brilliance of it. You will only get the simple and the superficial from both he and Raptor; one should never expect more.
This is especially obvious when he brings out things like the speech from Braveheart. You know, the movie where in the end, Mel Gibson is brutally tortured and killed? Lot of good his words did him there, eh? I bet he worked all day on that speech.
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Whoa now. I'll grant you the historical accuracy of the movie was dubious, but let's not be mocking the Scottish Struggle for Independence in front of someone from Clan Chattan.
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