Real World Event Discussions

War on Men

POSTED BY: BYTEMITE
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NIKI2

Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:23 PM

Actually, Byte, I bought WHOLE HOG into the makeup and clothes thing during my working life! I've got a "thing" about color coordination...it even extends to the signs I make for Occupy, and has in everything I've ever done. So I went the whole route--makeup that matched my outfit that matched my jewelry that matched my 6" high heels!

Admittedly, the first time was before soon after I "discovered" makeup (I started wearing it when Clark and I first got together...to look pretty for him, of course), and the second time was long after my working life was over and I'd stopped using makeup or dressing up or giving a shit about what others thought of me, but I don't think that had anything to do with it anyway.

Hon,

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I'm going to enjoy proving you all wrong.

That's an attitude which is really sad and totally wrong. Nobody here is important enough for it to matter what they think of you, and we don't think of you the way you think we do anyway. That's the attitude of the guy I knew who blew his brains out on the pay phone, and yes, it was horribly devastating to his wife and daughter...especially the daughter, who blamed her mom for years afterward. She got into all kinds of trouble, drugs, etc., and it wasn't until years later her mother was able to reach her again and she got straightened out...after which, she and her mom were INCREDIBLY close, last I heard. They moved from the dirt-water town of Burley, Idaho up to Coeur d'Alene and we lost touch, but I was so glad they'd finally worked it out.

Obviously it wouldn't have that kind of effect on other people's families, but it would hurt SOMEONE terribly, and usually not those it was intended to hurt. I hope fervently that you're not serious, just in one of those moods again where you feel the way you described, and I'm here to tell you it's not true--there are some here who don't care enough about ANYONE else to be honest and decent with them, but it's by far not the majority of those here. I for one don't ignore you at all, I respond when I have something to say, I don't laugh at you at ALL...in fact I empathize all too easily on how you feel and express yourself frequently. I know how it is to feel that way, believe me! I hope you can bear in mind that it's your BRAIN making you feel that way, not reality. We all disagree from time to time, and we all have opinions of one another which might well be waaaay off the mark if we were to meet IRL.

Above all, I repeat: NOBODY here is important enough to give the ability to hurt us, we're just not.

ANTHONYT

Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:16 PM

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NOBODY here is important enough

Hello,

I think maybe everyone is. But maybe if we understood people better, we wouldn't get mad or frustrated or any of the rest of it. Or maybe we'd be free of all that if we just understood ourselves better.

But... important enough? If anyone is, if even one of us is, even if it's just us... then isn't everyone?

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Never forget what these men are.
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:15 PM

I owe some apologies here. Spoken out of line to you and and Oonj and Anthony and Sig.

The thing about fashion-suicide was just speculative, it's not even necessarily what I think, I don't really have any investment in the idea.

For me life and death are just means to an end, and I do have something to prove. I need to make myself worthwhile, and there's only so many ways I can do that. In any case I'm not really helping anyone else talking like this.

NIKI2

Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:22 PM

Helping anyone else? How about you are helping us learn to communicate? You are touching those who care, so that they can express their concern? You are helping remind us that words matter? You remind us that we, too, shouldn't take what's said here personally--certainly not personally enough to affect our lives. You are showing us that SOME here can recognize their own fallibility and publicly acknowledge it.

You help in many ways, Byte, me especially. Don't ever think otherwise, pleae. I value your voice, as many here do, and don't ever want you to leave. And you are DEFINITELY worthwhile, little as you believe that!

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, May 22, 2012 6:31 PM

Well, I mean we might be triggering people by talking about this.

Also, I've hijacked this whole thread. I do that too much.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:06 AM

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Neither have I, but that doesn't mean that it's not a factor on some level with other women. I suspect if you never bought into the make-up fashion stuff to begin with and never DID care what you looked like and that aspect was NOT depression related, then of course you wouldn't START to care at that point.

Although I do love how people assume away about what I have and haven't done, and also them and their comments about how judgmental I am. Provoking me into spilling my heart off the board then laughing at me and ignoring me. Well. I guess I really am as pathetic as I think I come across - none of you even think I have the guts to do it. I'm going to enjoy proving you all wrong.

Gorram Byte....

I didn't even notice this post until I read the last few posts on the board here. Don't take that as an insult, please... Anyone here can tell you that I'm one of the most self-centered people here.

If you're looking for "friends" on these boards, RWED is probably the last place to look. I admit that I got lucky in that regard and met up with Frem here, but other than that, this is all dog-eat-dog at best, and posting here is mindless self-indulgence at its most banal. Posting my LONG and thought out replies here 99% of the time would have been time better spent masturbating..... and I'm not even "kinda" joking about that.

I hesitated to post this reply to you because I didn't want to in any way "reward" your post with positive feedback.

But, I can't help myself to reply now though because I myself have lost 2 people dear to me in my life to suicide, and there is a third I feel responsible for who killed himself when a friend wanted to invite him to a new years eve party I was invited to but I said I couldn't because I was already a friend of a friend. I know I likely could no more have ultimately stopped them than I could have stopped my parents from divorcing, but I never even knew they felt that way until after it happened. I've also on more than one occasion considered the option myself in the past.

Really.... if you looked at a LOT of us who post here, we're not actually DOING ANYTHING to improve the Real World besides post our likely meaningless opinions about it.

(I believe the text-book definition of Insanity is to repeatedly do the same thing over and over and expect a different result, right????)

Why are any of the RWED regulars here? Why don't we spend half the time we're here doing more constructive things and branching out into the unknown?

Sure, there's our Righties and our Lefties here, and of course our in-betweeners

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But at the end of the day, everyone you know here by name is totally F-D up on one level or another. They have to be. If we weren't, whatever hole we're trying to fill by posting in the RWED would already be satisfied and we'd have no time for this mindless Mickey Mouserey.....

Just remember Byte.... Your views are no more or no less valid than any other person's views in the RWED. If for whatever reason you're not getting replies to your posts, it's because (thankfully) your views aren't CRAZY enough to attract a complete polar opposite to them.

I always put the Individual above the crowd.

I may not be able to speak everyday, but if you need to talk to somebody about your issues, please send me a private PM and I will gladly speak with you about your life and your situation. If you don't do it for yourself, do it for me. And if you don't do it for me, do it for my Uncle, one of my oldest and dearest friends, and this guy I knew back in 8th grade that grossed all the girls out and never lived to see his 21st birthday when he spent his New Years Eve alone.

Sincerely,
~6

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:07 AM

Anthony,

Most men in america work all day to pay the interest on debt that they can never repay. I'm not sure what else to call this condition. Ironic that the population most trapped in these circumstances are african americans. White americans are typically indentured for a number of years before they're able to pay off their student loans and mortage, though typically now more than the seven that their ancestors were obliged to serve.

Slavery never went away, it just evolved to be more discreet.

On suicide, i know why men are more successful at it, but I don't know if it should be said. I think that suicide is the result of a momentary lapse of reason, not a long term destination. It's like a short circuit. We built fault-tolerant systems for a while. You wouldn't want your computer to respond to a momentary loose connection by deleting all of your files. I don't know why we accept this for people.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:47 AM

Interest all day.... why not, right Anthony?

That's the example our unfeasible government sets for us on a daily basis, now spending 10 times more than can be afforded.

In a best-case scenario, I'd call it delusional. If you really want to call it what it is, we're all Meth Addicts....

Hell... even though I owe nobody nothing, that's not what China will think when they call in our personal debt for the national debt. As much as I "own" everything I have and have no debt in this "cloud", even after all the unfair cigarette taxes I've paid in the last decade, I owe the same 50-100k you owe per/person in national debt.

I hope the Chinese thugs come with baseball bats to break my legs, and I'll blow their kneecaps along with anything below them, off with my compact .45.

Just like a Chink to bring a baseball bat to a gunfight....

All I'll say while being tortured is my first and last name... my SS#... and that I'll NEVER be a slave!

I'd like to think we could defend ourselves from the Chinese when the day comes, but over 50% of Americans are so "fat" and lazy off the system that they wouldn't even know how to operate the safety. Meanwhile, a 4 year old Chinese Male is about as good a marksman as our top 80%.

Keep thinking we live in a bubble Lefties......

That's only the quickest way to wake up one day learning a foreign language and saying the pledge of Allegience to somebody halfway across the world.

I know you hate the Pledge of Allegience since the "God" concept was interjected (before I was born), but strip God out of it and we didn't have a bad thing here before we all collectively pissed all over it.

I'm just as guilty as you are

America is DEAD

God (or whatever athiest say in that situation say) help us......

OR...

Let me put the REAL situation to you in a nice way....

This is the end of the innocence people...

You, and everyone you know, are now either part of the solution, or you're part of the problem....

Stop beating your "party" drum and think for yourself.....

KWICKO

Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:56 AM

So, Six, who is it you're voting for?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

RIONAEIRE

Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:49 AM

I think Byte meant it might be a subconscious thing, to not want to leave a messy corpse, maybe they don't think about it consciously, but maybe its so deep down. My considerations of the matter have always been tidy methods, because its harder for your family if you do it violently or messily, they have to see it.

Hi Byte, its Wed. and we're both still alive, you and me. I care about you and you're my good friend. And I like being your friend, I do it because I want to. I'm not everyone's friend, my annoying neighbor, I'm not friends with her because she drives me to distraction, even though I've known her since she was born. I don't believe I'll ever be her friend because she is the most annoying person. Friendship is a choice.

Maybe Oonj can be your nemesis the way Wish is my nemesis now. She was rather mean to you after all. But maybe she didn't understand. And even nemesises ... nemesisi? nemesi? can get along with each other when they both try. And, in all technicality, you started this thread, so posting on it a lot isn't really monopolizing it, since its yours anyways. Just sayin.

Niki I hope that you'll stick around after Jim dies, I can understand why you'd feel the way you do, but we would miss you, you're a nice person, and your step kids care about you, so it isn't technically true that you'll have no one left. I know what you mean though, we haven't given in yet, but we worry what if that day comes, when we do, when we can't do this anymore?

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.