War on Men
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How many times have you considered suicide in your life?
If greater than zero, what methods have you considered and why?
*Considered*?
Heck, I've had days when I was driving down the freeway and looked longingly at a bridge abutment... Why? Because it was Tuesday.
I sought - and received - help with that. That's my depression; that's how it manifests. One little thing gets wrong with brain chemistry, and suddenly the most drastic of acts becomes no more incidental to you than tying your shoes, and worthy of about as much thought.
It's not that I want to die, but when my depression visits, I have a hard time thinking of reasons NOT to. One day I may lose that fight, but not this day.
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero
"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy
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Wondered.... often... what would happen if I had a car "accident"? Thought... often... "Well, at least I get a chance to rest!" That's what comes from taking care of one dying, one mentally disabled and one chronically sick family member.
Most of us have burdens. Thanks to our dog-eat-dog society we get to struggle with them alone. No wonder our society has so many mentally and emotionally crippled people.
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I agree. There's probably susceptibility involved here, as some people in this society do seem to be emotionally fine, but the society creates stressors which exacerbate nascent problems.
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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Strange thing about that.
The moments of joy we create for others has an insidious way of also becoming our own.
Not strange at all, this is entirely deliberate.
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All witches are selfish, the Queen had said. But Tiffany's Third Thoughts said: Then turn selfishness into a weapon! Make all things yours! Make other lives and dreams and hopes yours! Protect them! Save them! Bring them into the sheepfold! Walk the gale for them! Keep away the wolf! My dreams! My brother! My family! My land! My world! How dare you try to take these things, because they are mine!
(Note, Manga is read right-to-left)
-Frem
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Anthony, to answer your questions:
Twice. The first time I was a teenager, and had my upcoming wedding fall through. Long story, basically the guy got cold feet briefly, and cut off communication with everyone, including his own family (he was in the Navy and out of state). He got over it, but by then I was a hippie and on speed; after coming home and finding me thus, he moved to Washington and did a lot of drugs.
Given I'd never been on a date until I met him and believed nobody would ever want to marry me, it was a devastating blow. I didn't "contemplate", I didn't give it any thought at all, I just "felt". I took sleeping pills from mom's bathroom cabinet; I just didn't want to "feel" anymore. Ended up only sleeping for two days straight; never told anyone then. After that I decided never to marry. Still wouldn't have, as I've said, if I hadn't wanted to put Jim on my dental insurance. It just didn't matter to me.
The second time was out of bipolar depression. As Mike said: "It's not that I want to die, but when my depression visits, I have a hard time thinking of reasons NOT to." Not much thinking or planning went into it; I banged my head against the wall enough times to put a hole in the wall (which is still there in the bathroom to remind me); didn't work so then started cutting. Didn't have the guts to cut my wrists, and the cutting eased the urge. I was very grateful it hadn't worked once the depression left.
I have every intention of offing myself if I outlive Jim. Not until I have no more dogs, and whether I'll do it or not of course nobody can tell, but I've no family so see no reason to end up old and useless and alone. It doesn't bother me at all to contemplate it, and when the time comes, I will probably have no difficulty stashing away enough pills to do it properly. I don't give a shit what I look like. I've been blessed with a pretty damned good life and had the opportunity to experience things others haven't, so I'm content.
At neither time did how I looked or what kind of corpse I would leave or how clean anything was cross my mind even once. I don't think anyone who hasn't gotten close enough to actually picking up something with which to end their life can judge those who have. I reject that women (or at least the vast majority of them) choose the methods they do in order to look good. I'm sure some do, but I've known a few bipolars who tried it (and a couple who succeeded) and none of them had how they'd look on their minds. It depends on the person and is totally personal.
I know some have sliced their wrists in the bathtub so as not to leave a mess--that speaks to how they feel about themselves. I knew one who called his wife from a pay phone and shot himself while she was on the phone--the reasoning behind that is obvious. I know one who was arrested because she took a tire iron to a pharmacist who wouldn't give her enough pills to kill herself. That's pure bipolar psychosis. That's usually how we bipolars go...when depression hits it's exactly like Mike said; intense feelings and all of what Byte said--we literally cannot contemplate anything positive. Literally. It's part of our brain chemistry. The right meds usually stop it.
All this conjecture is interesting, but as I said, nobody can truly answer unless they've tried; those who were successful obviously cannot answer. I think the reasons people choose and the methods they choose are very personal and generalizations don't mean much.
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At neither time did how I looked or what kind of corpse I would leave or how clean anything was cross my mind even once. I don't think anyone who hasn't gotten close enough to actually picking up something with which to end their life can judge those who have. I reject that women (or at least the vast majority of them) choose the methods they do in order to look good. I'm sure some do, but I've known a few bipolars who tried it (and a couple who succeeded) and none of them had how they'd look on their minds. It depends on the person and is totally personal.
Neither have I, but that doesn't mean that it's not a factor on some level with other women. I suspect if you never bought into the make-up fashion stuff to begin with and never DID care what you looked like and that aspect was NOT depression related, then of course you wouldn't START to care at that point.
Although I do love how people assume away about what I have and haven't done, and also them and their comments about how judgmental I am. Provoking me into spilling my heart off the board then laughing at me and ignoring me. Well. I guess I really am as pathetic as I think I come across - none of you even think I have the guts to do it. I'm going to enjoy proving you all wrong.
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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
How many times have you considered suicide in your life?
If greater than zero, what methods have you considered and why?
I don't think Ive ever been low enough that I actively considered it, nor any methods.
I did once get so depressed, for a number of months, during which I recall hoping that an opportunity would arise to have it happen "by accident". A bus passing by, a little too close to the sidewalk, a trigger happy mugger, whatever - I could never conceive of doing myself in, but I could conceive of not bothering to stop it if it came by other means.
If that makes sense.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
On the other hand, I am suspicious of anyone who describes their sex as 'oppressed providers.'
not to defend these guys, because i think they whine a little, but you could i think describe slaves as "oppressed providers"
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Originally posted by FREMDFIRMA:
The money is bleh, but it puts food on the table with a bit left over, which is more than most people got these days.
-Frem
Goddam Frem.....
Your devotion to your work speaks volumes to your character. I thank only my peripheral vision for not being caught reading books while I was on guard duty in my car when I wasn't listening to the Cubs games or talk radio.
I wish I could be the baddass like you, but even when I was a 24 year old 210lbs at only 5'7" of brick shit house with all of my original parts, I still felt like a chiwawa in the body of a bulldog. I don't like fighting, particularly the physical aspect of it, although even arguing in real life is something I'd rather just walk away from. That's really my ONLY reason for being such a dick in the RWED sometimes I guess. It gives me an audience to be my worst...
If things ever really get bad, I'd hope to be able to live up to my expectations to be what you have been when things weren't that bad for most.
Like I've said before, you're a good man, whether you want to admit it or not. I'm sure there is some things you never want to discuss that make you feel you need to fulfill this role now as your own crosses to bear, but as 2Pac said, only God can judge you now.
When St. Peter is debating your entry into Heaven, feel free to use me as a reference to your Character.
I might have a few demons in the past I need some explaining for myself, and it may be a few decades or so after your passing even with all my drinking and smoking, so don't hold it against me if you have to spend a decade or two in purgatory before the pearly gates open wide for you and you live a new life of steak and mashed potatoes, 18 year old supermodels with wings that never age a day and the perpetual libido of a 12 year old.
Or.....
Whatever your definition of Heaven is anyway
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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
On the other hand, I am suspicious of anyone who describes their sex as 'oppressed providers.'
not to defend these guys, because i think they whine a little, but you could i think describe slaves as "oppressed providers"
Hello,
But I don't think we would describe men as slaves.
--Anthony
Note to Self:
Raptor - women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Never forget what these men are.
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz
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