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War on Men

POSTED BY: BYTEMITE
UPDATED: Sunday, May 3, 2026 22:40
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ANTHONYT

Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:35 AM

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She sure was a looker! . . . She didn't use a gun. -- I guess she just
wanted to leave a pretty corpse. Ha-ha-haw!

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Why does that remark enrage Oonj?
Because it says that the dead woman was shallow and frivolous. It invalidates her
pain and hopelessness. It makes fun of her.

Hello,

How can you feel someone isn't being made fun of when the guffaw is inserted? Never mind the description of someone as a 'looker' to reduce the observer to shallowness. (I would never imagine Byte using such a phrase, for instance.)

But just because this is the scene going on in your mind, that does not mean it is the scene going on in someone else's mind.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Never forget what these men are.
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

OONJERAH

Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:58 AM

Quote Anthony: "But just because this is the scene going on in your mind, that
does not mean it is the scene going on in someone else's mind."

Very true.

The first time I saw Byte's remark (Pretty corpse), it pissed me off instantly.
I felt she was being dismissive; I often see that in her remarks. I don't always
know what she means or if she's in a mood that I can't interpret.

When I realized that I'd have to be grade-school literal in my remarks to get my
meaning across, I also exaggerated the scene a lot. Over the top, no stuttering.

Byte and I don't communicate all that well. Trust is in short supply.
Our Mercurys must be square.

. . . . .The worst and most frequent consequence of paranoia is that it's self-fulfilling.

BYTEMITE

Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:07 AM

You seem to still think I make fun of female suicides. I don't really have anything further to say to you.

BYTEMITE

Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:21 AM

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Women tend to not to want to leave a mess, out of habitual consideration for others.

Hmm, maybe. But now that I'm thinking about it, both of these theories suggest something unfortunate about men - not concerned about appearance, not considerate of others, and another one I can think of more macho/inclined to violence - and I don't know, perhaps that is unfair and stereotyped. In that case, the reverse about women being unfairly stereotyped would also be true.

I am starting to doubt the initial premise I was fighting about.

OONJERAH

Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:22 AM

See, Tony? Dismissive.

ANTHONYT

Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:26 AM

Hello Byte,

I am positing a highly intrusive series of questions.

How many times have you considered suicide in your life?

If greater than zero, what methods have you considered and why?

When I was younger, I once briefly contemplated suicide because of an unhappy experience. I never brought the idea into the full planning stages, although I knew I had access to firearms and that probably would have been my choice. The immediacy of it, like turning off a light switch, would have been tempting.

However, before I could take the idea into the planning stages, a new idea occurred to me.

"What if things get better?"

I tried to think back to times I'd been unhappy before. There were several. And then I thought of times I'd been happy. It turned out that unhappy times had eventually been followed by happy times. Sometimes these times weren't even separated by much space.

And so I opted not to proceed any further on the premise that things might improve, even in ways unforeseeable, and I might have valuable future experiences.

When I look back on it now, I'm both ashamed and horrified that I ever seriously considered ending my life. That it could even be an idea available for consideration is lamentable to me.

I often wonder about people whose pain and depression are so persistent and ongoing that they may never think to ask themselves, "What if things get better?" Because for them, the darkness is so consuming that apparently the idea isn't worth serious consideration.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Never forget what these men are.
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

ANTHONYT

Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:28 AM

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:

See, Tony? Dismissive.

Hello,

I am ill equipped to offer a substantive evaluation, given that I surrendered the idea of direct correspondence with some members of this community. I would be the pot referring to the kettle.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Never forget what these men are.
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

BYTEMITE

Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:31 AM

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She did, however, set up an interview for next week for me for survaliance within the company over the border where the minimum wage is higher and the job pays more anyhow. It's not full time, and there are limited benefits, but there is a MUCH greater potential to get a full time position in Loss Prevention.

We'll see how it goes.

Oh hey. That's a start. In the very least it might tide you over for the time it takes to pay your real estate tax... Which is something I don't think should EXIST because it exploits people who live off the land and forces people to work for someone else when they otherwise might not have to.

You could always sell your house, maybe in a better economy and move to the south east of alaska, doesn't get as cold there as in the mainland, and so long as you're doing repairs/upgrades or maintenance on your house you don't have to pay a property tax, it's a loophole they put in.

But, that's probably not a great idea, don't listen to me I don't know anything.

Still, it's good to hear something panned out for you.

BYTEMITE

Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:44 AM

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How many times have you considered suicide in your life?

If greater than zero, what methods have you considered and why?

I will PM them to you, because this thread has gotten very off-topic and I'm tired of looking pathetic and weak and histrionic.

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"What if things get better?"

Two people die every second. A woman is america is raped once every day. Children are beaten. Animals are slaughtered. Ultimately the fate of every person and living thing is to become food for something else. Memories are forgotten. There are disorders for constant pain, fear, sadness, and overexposure to all three, and none where a person constantly feels joy. Joy is fleeting, and negativity easily remembered. It is impossible to express the amount of pain and suffering that exists in this world, and I am immoveable in my certainty that there is something terribly wrong with it.

ANTHONYT

Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:46 AM

Hello,

I don't know the specific situation in the specific area, but I would caution against selling a home in the current economy if it can be avoided.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Never forget what these men are.
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz