Trouble

POSTED BY: Wulfenstar
UPDATED: Monday, April 9, 2012 04:37
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WULFENSTAR

Friday, March 30, 2012 9:43 PM

I'm going to have a daughter.

And, as she will be half-me, and the other half hot-blooded hispanic... she will need training. To control her wilder impulses, and to be more socialised.

Now, I could go the route on what I know... but horror and rice are not where I want her to be.

Instead, I think, something along these lines will be appropriate.

Yet, I realize that teaching her to be in control is not all there is. Besides the amounts of literature she will need to read, and the music she will need to learn... what else is there?

Im not exactly the most progressive father-to-be... so a little help on what I should teach her would be appreciated.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

WULFENSTAR

Friday, March 30, 2012 10:01 PM

My part-Asian wife adds this (shes good with a blade, not as good as I am, but still)...

We are kind of at a loss. Hot blooded individuals as we are, we need advices.

ETA: We are looking at Krav (my favorite)... but that only teaches her to be brutal.

She needs to be well rounded.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

WULFENSTAR

Friday, March 30, 2012 10:16 PM

Yeah, this terrifys some people.

But my baby girl will be able to protect herself, and not need anyone.

But socialization? Hell, I have no clue.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

ANTHONYT

Friday, March 30, 2012 10:28 PM

Hello,

Quote:
and the other half hot-blooded hispanic... she will need training. To control her wilder impulses, and to be more socialised.

First of all, I shake my head at you here. Stereotype much?

Now on to more important things. Social skills are vastly more important than fighting skills. With good social skills, the necessity of fighting becomes a rare event. The sort of thing you can count on your fingers over the course of a lifetime.

I would begin by not programming the child with any of your foolish preconceptions about other ethnicities and races.

Then I would make sure the child understands the value of a smile, and of the words please and thank you. (Such words can move people who can't be touched by fist, foot, or sword.)

I would teach her that avoiding a fight is preferable to engaging in one, and that violence is the last resort, and a tool grasped only to survive failure. There is no victory or honor in combat. Only survival.

She should be taught to help people whenever she can, love people as much as she can, and be courteous even to people she doesn't like.

That last part is the hardest.

--Anthony

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WULFENSTAR

Friday, March 30, 2012 10:33 PM

Unfortunately Anthony,

This world is not a nice place. Its full of evil people... ugly, horrible, lying, people.

She needs to be able to defend herself, first.

The rest can come after.

But what is the rest? She might be able to quote Shakespeare, or Sun-Tzu... but how does that get her a date in this world?

I'll take care of making sure she is safe. Knife and gun control as needed. But being able to talk to the rest of the somnabulant sheep? I have no experience. Yet I know she will need it, as a life skill if nothing else.

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

KWICKO

Saturday, March 31, 2012 10:01 PM

Quote:
But being able to talk to the rest of the somnabulant sheep? I have no experience.

I'd have never guessed!

ANTHONYT

Saturday, March 31, 2012 10:36 PM

Quote:

This world is not a nice place. Its full of evil people... ugly, horrible, lying, people.

Hello,

You might also teach her that if she sees only evil everywhere she goes, then evil is all she will ever know.

Don't condemn her to your darkness.

--Anthony

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Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.

HKCAVALIER

Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:17 PM

Real People Skills in three simple (but not easy) steps:

The three things you need to learn to do at will, and with absolute sincerity:

1.) Ask for help when you need it.

2.) Thank others when they help you.

3.) Apologize when you let other people down.

Without all three of these skills in heavy rotation in your life, you will remain isolated, misunderstood and resentful.

Now, the most important piece to remember in this when dealing with children: There is only one way to teach these principles to your child:

BY EXAMPLE.

If you have not mastered these three skills, your child will NEVER learn them from you; she'll have to wait until she's a grown woman and free of you to learn these three skills, if at all.

Hectoring children night and day to "thank your grandmother" and "apologize to your little brother" will only make them feel isolated, misunderstood and resentful.

That's really all you need to know, Wulf. I wish you and your daughter every break this world has to give. You deserve it.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

RIONAEIRE

Monday, April 2, 2012 6:39 AM

I don't believe that ethnicity determines temperment, there are calm and fiery people by nature wherever you go. However what a child sees from his or her parents does do a lot to determine how they view the world, handle disputes etc, this is why some traits are seen as ethnically based, because sometimes they are prevellent in certain cultures based on how people are raised generation after generation, so it takes the guise of being an ethnic thing, even though it is a learned cultural behavior, not to mention that even that viewpoint isn't fool proof because there are all sorts of people all over the place.

Make sure you guys model how you want her to behave, its the best way to impart things to her, children look to their parents as their first role models, also to their older siblings, but she's your first so that's not part of the equation.

Socially, make sure she play with other kids right from the start, one of the most important things a person can learn in this world is how to be with others and have meaningful relationships of varying sorts. So make sure she plays with other kids a lot, play groups when she's a baby, the neighbor kids and schoolmates as she gets older.

Once she's old enough you guys could put her in martial arts, it can be really good for lots of kids.

It sounds like you feel you didn't have the kind of childhood experiences you want Inara to have, so because you see that you can take extra care to do what you feel is right, possibly different than what your parents did if that's what you feel is right.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Monday, April 2, 2012 7:05 AM

Dont make me watch a whole lot of Youtube stuff just to get your point across. What training are you intending on giving her? Say the WORDS wulf. WORDS. Incidentally, one of the best skills you can give your daughter is how to speak coherently, and to be able to name feelings and concepts in particular. When she is little and pointing and having a tantrum, help her to name what she needs.

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