"Racism is dead in America." Bullshit
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Sunday, August 30, 2026 19:02
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Quote:Thanks. The only lawyer types I know well work on immigration domestic issues - ie, if an non-citizen gets beat up by her husband, how can she protect herself and her kids? It's a hard job, and the lawyers sure as hell aren't doing it for the money!
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Anyhows, them that DO the job deserve full credit Mal4, that I freely give ya.
OK, that might not officially count as a public defender, but I think it's in the same vein.
You totally called it about Zimmerman. I had a feeling that it went as you said, but you summed it up perfectly. This guy was a time bomb - frightening, not unlike certain other time bombs out there... I wish they would learn from this, but it seems not.
It seems pretty clear from the evidence piling up that Zimmerman will get busted. Boy, if he doesn't, things could get ugly.
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Well, there's another assumption down - during Zimmermans 911 call he mutters "Fuckin coons", and since he wasn't chasing a raccoon...
Although the "always get away" comment indicates to me it was both racial AND territorial, he didn't like them "on his turf", but that's no excuse neither.
Also, yes, he *WAS* a cop-wannabe, and got turned away or bounced from the idea at one time.
That can go a couple ways, either run off as a hair trigger psycho, which this guy was, can't pass the physical, or want the trappings but don't care to invest the time and effort - s'funny though, so long as you train them right and make the rules abundantly clear, the last two make pretty good guards.
Oh, and a third category - "I wanted to do the right thing, but they're sooo corrupt!", usually idealistic types who wound up storming out of the police academy in disgust.
THOSE guys make *excellent* guards, they're some of the few who can overcome the -50 for police training and/or experience in our interview process.
I am also hearing a lot of whining about the "Stand your ground" law, which this has NOTHING to do with, nor "Castle doctrine", neither one EVEN APPLIES since Zimmerman aggressively pursued a situation he shoulda stayed out of - but yes, you got folks with an anti self-defense agenda spinning it, of course you do, and it's assholes like Zimmerman which give em reason, as well as DIPSHITS who defend assholes like this even when they're clearly in the wrong cause of their OWN racial or partisan issues.
You hear me Wulfie ?
This guy's a murderin punk, and if you're gonna defend him cause YOU got racial issues, all you're doing is pissing all over the right to self-defense by proving those Better-World gun grabbers right.
You think race had shit to do with it in *MY* eyes ?
As Oojie says, equal opportunity insanity, racism - think I've never taken shit for being a whitebread cracker hillbilly ?
You think I ain't never been shot at ?
Unlike you, I don't hold it against everyone of that race, creed or culture, although admittedly I struggle to not have the same attitude against christians - the difference is I *TRY*, and you make no effort, you just try to rationalize and justify, a self-inflicted mental trap which leads right down the path Zimmerman took - you could, and should, learn a LESSON from that you pompous jackass.
But no, you can't bear to look at your own prejudices in the harsh light of truth, so you lie to yourself, well have at it, but don't try selling that bullshit to me.
And no, Zimmerman is NOT gonna walk it off - this is gonna go to grand jury, which it should have in the first place (even if it was an obvious no-bill) cause any time someone drops the hammer on another human being it should AT LEAST be questioned as a general policy, a standard procedure which prevents crap like this from NEEDING so much public outrage to grease the wheels of justice.
And he's gonna fry, since his flapping yap has ALREADY handed out enough evidence to sink him deep, from lying in his original statement, changing his story, ignoring procedure, common sense and the advice of a police dispatcher, making a racially charged comment on tape, not clearly identifying himself or his intentions at the beginning of the confrontation...
Again, I do know what the hell I'm talkin about, this is my official money-in-my-pocket, food-on-my-table aboveboard work, and I been doin it long enough to spot out a creep like Zimmerman miles away, cause hiring one of THOSE will sink your biz in the gutter with legal and liability problems before you can even blink.
-Frem
PS. Speakin of real racoons, the fuzzy kind, I scored a neat video clip last night playing peek-a-boo with one around a tree, it's quite cute...
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Stereotypes don't just happen.
A lot of people have to see a behavior before one is born. Then that behavior has to be reinforced over time for it to be vetted.
Drunk Irish.
Covetous Jew.
Mob Italian.
Bookworm Asian.
Maybe instead of blaming the aftermath of said stereotypes... you should try changing them. (Tho I give a pass to Asians.... getting good grades is not a vice.)
Everyone was all set to jump on this. "WHITE MAN KILLS BLACK BOY!"... and all that entails.
But now that the guy was Hispanic... you backpeddle. Cus God knows, its only ok to cry raciss when the target is white.
When its an "other"... well then. That gets all sorts of complicated, right? Only white people are raciss, right?
Racism does exist. But you might want to look in the mirror first before you start throwing that word around.
Who do you accuse of backpedaling? And why do you say Zimmerman's NOT white? Because he's part Hispanic?
Clearly, not *only* white people are racist, because you claim Zimmerman's NOT white, and here he is on a 911 call talking about "fucking coons" while chasing an unarmed 17-year-old black kid who was breaking no laws.
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Wanna see how Fox News commenters are responding?
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/40088_Fox_News_Commenters_Reac
t_to_Trayvon_Martin-_Good_Shot_Zimmy
These are actual quotes left on the Fox News website in response to the story:
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What a shame—a tragedy, really— because the dead lil’ gangsta could’ve used “‘A-FIRM-TIV AK-SHUN” to go to kollige an play footballz and make lotsa cash munny!”
[…]
Fast and Furious didn’t work to pass new gun control so now Eric Holder will try the race card.
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No matter how crime figures are massaged by those who want to acknowledge or dispute the existence of a Dirty War, there is nothing ambiguous about what the official statistics portray: for the past 45 years a large segment of bIack America has waged a war of v i o l e n t retribution against white America.
[…]
Zimmerman was attacked by the man and defended himself with a gun. Zimmerman’s wounds were verified by police.
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17 = child. LOL!!!!!!
Let the LIB word games begin.
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Yet the “justice department” refuses to prosecute any voter intimidation that involves a blac k as the intimidator.
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Why should anyone care about this kid? Because he is of color? People don’t value kids period. They are property. BTW, I am a conservative that cares a great deal about kids. We follow hundreds of cases each year, many white babies and children, none of them get attention. But he does??
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Zimmerman felt threatened by Martin’s gang’s actions…this could have possibly lead to these terrible circumstances. Gang violence MUST BE STOPPED OBAMA!
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Blacks can do no wrong, period! That is the DOJ’s excuse for becoming involved. 50+ years of being told they are special and entitled and the gov’t’s only focus is to make it so!!
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In any event, it appears to be a case of one sc u m bag Cuban-type (Zimmerman) offing some scummy b l a ck kid (Trayyy-Vonnnn)…in some trash neighborhood….
but now, because the dead kid’s a kneegrow, we have:
the BIG BAD FBI on this “important” case…and
the usual BLACK-RADICAL-PROTESTERS who can’t mind their own business!
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Gated communities exist because people are afraid….& negros thrive on crime…Look at our prisons.
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Need that too….But Negr0s only have their welfare checks….and in any event can’t follow rules
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What time do the riots start? Gotta get my popcorn and munchies ready for the “hood” burning!
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Funny you never see them rally against the drug dealing murderers that control their neighborhoods. LOL!!!
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How does anyone know what this 17 yr old said, Most likely he threw the race card out ” you stop me because I*M B L ACK” and then became threatning. The media alway plants the seed of doubt when when a B l ac k is sh ot by a caucasian
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maybe his gang brothers incited violence too?
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How’d the kid get into the “gated” community in the first place?
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Them monkeys can jump!
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This is going to be a tough case. gang violence is hard to prosecute. martin’s gang may even want to retaliate. this is scary
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Let’s find out why the “po’ baby” was REALLY there!
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The little thug ghetto monkey should have been home doing his homework, not out gang bangin.
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I’m just glad Zimmerman didnt miss and hit an innocent bystander.
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THIS IS PURE RACIST!! When do you ever see the DOJ investigate the death of a white child??
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This is pure B.S I want to see the kids police record even if something is expounged also why was he removed from facebook it says account terminated.Why because his parents are trying to cover his tracks just like if you hit a bus they see Dollar signs.People have dragged data about Zimmerman out where is the kids past.Don’t say he was a good boy prove it.Ask yourself what is more likely to happen any 17 year old kid when you ask a question.A smartass reply I have never and I mean never seen a teenager run unless he did something wrong.I guess no crinimal has ever cased a place when they went to a store.It takNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Irish millworker
Jewish physicist
Italian tenor
Asian gang
Oh, I just thought I'd contribute some equal but opposite stereotypes.
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Sad to say Kwicko, but all the facts in the world will only garner an equal and opposite reaction.
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Last phone call may provide clues in Florida teen's shooting death =>
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-trayvon-martin-20
120321,0,6465227.story
The lawyer for Trayvon Martin's family says the conversation shows the 17-year-old was
killed 'in cold blood.' The gunman's father disagrees.
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An invitation to murder? by Clarence Page =>
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/ct-oped-0321-page-201203
21,0,7296267.column
(Chicago Tribune)
Mr. Page is saying what some of us said, the "stand your ground" law
is a license to kill. But he has researched the statistics to prove it.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko
Why do you think that those "howls of outrage" are appropriate when a white kid is the victim (and lives), but it's "self defense" when a black kid is killed?
Hell, to hear from some here, this might have been "self defense" by the black kids against the white kid. Doesn't seem to matter if he was younger, smaller, outnumbered or unarmed...
Troll, I'm wondering if you're going to follow the well-established pattern set by Rappy and Wulfie, and tend to express your howls of outrage when only when it's whites who are the victims, and not when it's black people.
It is not about race. It is about the laws as they are written not the laws as the public mob thinks they should be.
The difference, and I'm wondering why certain folks are having such a hard time parsing this, is the sequence of the events. Z follows M. There's some confrontation. Eyewitnesses see M on top of Z. Z is calling for help. At some point Z gets free and shoots M. When the police arrive Z is bleeding from the nose and the back of the head. Injuries are substantive proof of assault and reinforce existing Florida law. Nothing indicates racial motivation that lead to the use of deadly force. The police do not have enough evidence to arrest, so Z goes free. The investigation is ongoing. With the public outcry, the police and the DAs office will feel pressured to pull together a case. Any case.
You know what this reminds me of? The Nicole Simpson murder trial. The police and the DAs office in LA blew it because the eyes of the world were on them.
Now, let's look at Kansas City. I don't believe there's an affirmative defense for setting someone on fire in Missouri. If you know of one, please let us all know.
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'The investigation is ongoing.'
Only due to public pressure. Against dispatcher advice a 28 year old armed man stalks an unarmed 17 year old. In the phone conversation between the 17 year old and his g/f he says that he is being followed and he's trying to get away. The 17 year old is cornered, a scuffle ensues, the 17 year old is shot dead, and the police DO NOT INVESTIGATE. Instead, the 911 calls are withheld, then 'corrected' b4 being released. Witness statements are quietly shuffled away. The cell phone call to the g/f is ignored.
It takes the FEDERAL JUSTICE DEPARTMENT to prod the police department to investigate.
And this is what you're defending as just the normal workings of the law. Nothing about Zimmerman being in the wrong for stalking, intimidating and accosting. Nothing about the PD jiggering the evidence or the testimony. Just a regrettable meeting between a violent young black man, and a man who was only defending himself from unprovoked attack. This laughable piece of crap is what you would have us believe is the truth.
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