"Racism is dead in America." Bullshit

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UPDATED: Sunday, August 30, 2026 19:02
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I call bullshit, Trollboy.

Zimmerman, AFTER making a racial slur and demonstrating obvious bias, then against common sense, procedure and good advice, follows and needlessly, deliberately provokes a confrontation, without identifying himself or his intentions, mind you - with a much smaller, younger person, has his ass handed to him for it, and then shoots the kid in a hissy fit.

That's second degree murder.

Spin it all you like, but your shine-job flies like a cement airplane in light of the demonstrated, proven facts of the case available, that is unless you wanna call a confirmed police dispatch recording a fake, you got nothin.

Heaven forfend if this kid had any kind of juvie rapsheet, which a lot of kids of all races do, cause then the howling from the shit throwing racist monkeys of fauxnews and asshats like you would be trying to spin a vandalism or shoplifting pop to make the boy look like some kinda hardened criminal, without an ounce of doubt.

And lest you forget, it works both ways - had the boy shot Zimmerman, from HIS end of the altercation he would have been defending himself against some creepy motherfucker who was following him, then confronted and laid hands on him, except of course our stupid magic-number laws don't allow young people to defend themselves, which is another issue I got with shit like this.

And once again it shows the true colors of the hateful, intolerant, misogynistic mighty-whitey-righty crowd, the pure evil that lies behind the mask, and the REASON that if I had my way there'd be a robespierrian purge, and them folk would wind up providing the only use they're any good for.

Fertilizer.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Frem, when have I ever insulted you? I'm going to ask that you withdraw your insult against me. I've tried to stay on the high road while you, Kwicko, Niki, KPO, Oonjerah, and 1kiki work yourself up into a lather. The law is what it says. I have only argued the points of the law. I've never said that Z was right. I think his actions were irresponsible, but not punishable, UNDER FLORIDA LAW.

Admittedly, I haven't listened to the tapes. They're just fuel for the fire of public opinion. You say Z used a racial slur, great. Z used a racial slur.

Overnight I've learned a fact that tells me the feds have Z on another charge. He'll cop a plea, if it is true.

ETA: Withdraw allegation of lathering against Anthony.

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CT - some folks just work with their prejudiced template, and anyone who colors outside of the lines, or suggests a different view, is to be mocked and ridiculed.

Especially here, of all places.

You should know that by now.





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I've tried to stay on the high road while you, Kwicko, Niki, Anthony, KPO, Oonjerah, and 1kiki work yourself up into a lather.

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Hello,

Perhaps you could be specific, in my case, where I lathered in disproportion?

--Anthony

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Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.

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You are correct, Anthony. Edited to withdraw. My apologies.

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
You are correct, Anthony. Edited to withdraw. My apologies.

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Hello,

Accepted, and thank you.

--Anthony

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Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.

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Yes, Cave; the law is what it is. And what it is says very clearly that the boy had the right not to answer questions of someone following him, AND had the right to protect HIMSELF against a stalker who he felt threatened him. I assume you missed that part, which I posted in detail. Nobody knows who attacked who initially, nobody can say who was on top, etc., just "two men who looked like they were wrestling", so how do we know it wasn't Zimmerman who tackled Travon? We don't.

Zimmerman's description of the boy staring at the houses could easily have been (and probably was) his trying to figure out which house he came from; he may not have been there at night, and if it were me, I wouldn't have wanted to knock on just any door in a gated community until I was sure it was the right door. I've heard nothing about him having been drunk or on drugs, so I believe if Zimmerman really thought that (and wasn't just using it as an excuse to pursue), he may have been influenced by his own sense of authority to get the wrong impression.

I'm sorry to see people trying to work this out with what few facts we have, while the usual suspects need to jump to the conclusionthat nobody cares now they know Zimmerman is PARTLY Hispanic. It shows racism on their part, nobody else's, since the tide of opinion has turned due to further information coming out, not the race of the suspect.

I'm sure glad those were COMMENTS, Mike...when I first glanced at it, I thought it was FauxNews commentators saying that, and even for FauxNews, that shocked me. Looking again, I see it was commentators; so, while I only read the first few, none of them would surprise me. We know the portion of the population FauxNews cottons to, so their reaction shouldn't surprise anyone. That there are many, many ugly minds out there which FauxNews encourages we already know all too well.

As to "working up into a lather", I've never felt anything here was important enough for that, sorry to disappoint you. Everything here is just opinion, same as me, so why would any of it be important enough to get upset about? I express my opinions, sometimes my disgust or amusement, then walk away from here and don't think about it again until I return. That you feel people have gotten worked up is your perception; I'm sad it's that important to you.

I'm glad you think his actions were irresponsible, but I say again: The law is quite clear, and to be followed by car and then on foot, and accosted by someone 100 pounds heavier gave the boy the legal right to defend himself if he felt threatened. As to another charge against Zimmerman, could you post a link, please, because I hadn't yet heard anything on that. I also hadn't heard anything about Zimmerman muttering something and would like a link to that so I can read it for myself, if that's possible. I haven't yet listened to the news, so I may have missed both.

As to the phone call to the girlfriend, the fact that she didn't come forward earlier makes me suspicious. It talks about "transcript", but how can they get a transcript of a cell phone call? For me, if they can prove the call even HAPPENED (which I believe IS possible?), that would be sufficient to make me believe more than disbelieve her story, but I'll wait for that information.

Basically, the law was on the BOY's side; he didn't have to answer questions by someone who wasn't a law enforcement person, who followed him in a car then on foot, and who accosted him for no understandable reason. Zimmerman was the aggressor, any way you look at it, and the self-defense law states clearly who had the right to self-defense--first Travon, who was doing NOTHING illegal nor bothering anyone.

Just out of curiosity, who here is a "comfortable, middle class, people screaming raciss"? I know I'm not--we sunk out of the middle class some years ago a

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