"Racism is dead in America." Bullshit
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Sunday, August 30, 2026 19:02
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Oh yeah, and someone please remind me again how we'd all be so much safer if we were just all armed.
Makes me think about nuclear weapons - in Zimmerman's case the problem was that the firepower exceeded the brain power. Maybe that's humanity's problem as well. We just can't REALLY be trusted with our technology.
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People who have never been exposed to real life amuse me.
I'm getting a kick out of those who live in their safe, little worlds talking about things they have no understanding of.
Yes. Lets make a law that has all guns be illegal. That will work. Especially when I hear someone kicking in my door. I'll grab a cricket bat (providing those arn't against the law) and defend myself and my family.
We can be just like Britain. Makes sense.
lol
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"
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Of course Wulfie. No one else has ever been attacked, or lived in a dangerous neighborhood. Yes, yes, yes. Sing your brain to sleep with your little lullaby and dream your little dreams. Sleep, sleeeeep.
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
People who have never been exposed to real life amuse me.
So you're amused by yourself, eh? Small things please small minds, it seems.
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I'm getting a kick out of those who live in their safe, little worlds talking about things they have no understanding of.
Yes. Lets make a law that has all guns be illegal. That will work. Especially when I hear someone kicking in my door. I'll grab a cricket bat (providing those arn't against the law) and defend myself and my family.
So that's quite a logical leap you've made their, son. From "Hey, maybe we should investigate a guy who blows a kid away for no good reason" to "Let's make a law that has all guns be illegal". You can go from zero to dumb-ass in 2.3 seconds, can't you?
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We can be just like Britain. Makes sense.
We'd certainly have fewer gun deaths and gun murders.
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Niki's initial post:
"He was shot by a self-appointed White Community Watch Captain who was walking around with a gun."
Today from MailOnline:
"The devastated mother of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, who was fatally shot last month by a Neighbourhood Watch volunteer, is saying the attack was racially motivated." => http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117219/Trayvon-Martin-shootin
g-Mother-claims-George-Zimmerman-killed-son-skin-colour.html#ixzz1pbknArW1
It's been nagging at me: Who hired this turkey? Community Watch? So the people in the gated community
asked him to do this job? Are any of them speaking up?
ETA: Yes, they are, one is. From the link above:
"According to the Miami Herald, Zimmerman volunteered as chief watchman at the Retreat of Twin Lakes Townhomes
after its homeowners association decided to jumpstart the programme following a spate of burglaries.
Licensed to carry a concealed firearm and a student of criminal justice, neighbours told the newspaper Zimmerman took
nightly patrols while walking his dog, and was passionate about his duty.
Records acquired by the Herald show his self-appointment led to a series of calls to police. From January 1, 2011 to
February 26, 2012, Zimmerman reportedly phoned authorities 46 times - to 'report disturbances, break-ins, windows
left open and other incidents'.
His calls account for some of the 402 made to police from the 260-unit complex, according to the Herald.
Cynthia Wibker, secretary of the homeowners association, credits him with solving crime in the area. 'He once caught
a thief and an arrest was made,' she said, adding that he helped to solve 'a lot' of crimes."
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Not everyone in the biz is trustworthy, and FAR too many are in it because their mental, ego and attitude issues bounced them out of military or police careers - what I call cartmans cause they got control issues which escalate every situation into dangerous potentials.
And one of the most dangerous are wanna-bes like this guy, how much you wanna bet he has a fake badge and a blue or red strobe in his car and various police-type weapony lying around his place ?
BELIEVE ME, I know the freakin type - I throw enough of em out of interviews...
Now, mind you, I don't often throw down the credentials card - I've done it maybe ONCE before in all this time, but imma throw it here, cause frankly what I got to say kinda requires it.
Yeah verily, I been doin this job off and on to some degree for twenty freakin YEARS and my training and experience includes military, professional and a whole damn lot of practical from both sides of the fence, okay ?
So, you got a black man, young guy, waltzing through your neighborhood with his hoodie up, looking around, which TO A COMPLETE FREAKING IDIOT, might look a little suspicious - mind you it's raining, and he's likely looking for alternate routes around puddles and low spots to avoid getting his shoes wet.
Now it's within basic procedure to keep an EYE on him, keep him in sight, and if you feel some desperate need to move him along since he hasn't displayed any OBVIOUS behavior the most you should do is crowd him a little, just linger nearby within his sight and unnerve him into moving along, while staying far enough out of reach there's no point in opening conversation or initiating confrontation.
Or alternatively, depending on his response to seeing you (for example if he offers a friendly smile and wave to acknowledge you) you can walk WITH him, chat him up a little while telling him - yeah well if I'm with you the little old ladies around here ain't gonna freak out, so I'm saving us both hassle, yanno?
AND you can make local contacts out of that who will let you know things, instead of making enemies.
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/deescalation.htm
What this moron did, and I know he did, is approach him and immediately start giving him ATTITUDE, the third degree, which even if he DIDN'T throw race in the mix (common enough, but lets not assume it) is enough to really piss someone off, and maybe the kid was a bit scared of what might HAPPEN to him out in the nethers of suburbia all alone with some armed creep (who probably did not identify himself AND got in the boys personal space) and decided to take off, at which point said armed creep reflexively GRABBED him.
And then shit went rodeo.
And then mister bully boy ego stroker can't put his ass where his mouth is and starts getting his butt kicked, so he starts whining like a bitch, and the boy in the middle of kicking his ass backs off, at which point his EGO requires the gesture, and the fucker murders him.
Which is EXACTLY what happened.
Which is why I do not hire these pissants.
Take a good long look, people....
Fucking it up completely - how to get attacked
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/get_attacked.htm
Yup, you're the bad guy, PREDATORY violence
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/violencetypesPRED.htm
There WAS a crime, yours - the Five Stages of fucking it up.
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/five_stages.html
This, particularly.
INTENT: This armed goon took it upon himself in violation of common sense, good advice, general procedure, to APPROACH and CONFRONT his intended victim - his EGO required it.
INTERVIEW: Fair bet the goon here assured himself that the kid was no PHYSICAL threat (or so he thought) before approaching, or he wouldn't have - cause again, I know these types.
POSITIONING: He sure as hell did this, approached, confronted, and provoked.
ATTACK: Force, threat of force, perceived-authority-bullying, that passive-aggressive shit-picking that such pumped up authoritarian punks engage in, followed by the physical action of grabb
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I agree with you, Frem. I believe your description of events is spot on.
But I cannot say so, because I did not witness it.
ETA: Introspection is a very good tool, tho few enough use it. To start,
One must recognize the limits of One's own Ego, and shut the thing down for a bit.
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FRem you know more about security, and many other things, than I ever will, so if you say it happened like that then you're more than likely right.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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AP - Feds to investigate fatal shooting of Fla. teen =>
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ivYiyG1LXR4Nf_kp9EJR
DOzW0fmQ?docId=878cd97997034f908ffcd75053aa56f7
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Castle doctrine does apply under Florida law. If you feel threatened by the actions of another you are free to use deadly force under their law. There has already been a case where teenagers were harassing an older man who lived alone. The last time they pulled their pranks on him they chose to pound on his front door in the middle of the night. He shot through the door without investigating. One of the teens died and one was seriously wounded. This was a no bill. No crime was committed.
I'm not saying that Zimmerman was right. I am saying that from the available evidence, no crime was committed. Playing a racist angle or the feds investigating, presumably under a civil rights angle, is all smoke and mirrors. Feeling that "this is wrong so we're going to make it a crime" undermines the criminal justice system.
Until more witnesses come forward or evidence is produced and we can get a better insight into what transpired between Martin and Zimmerman, we have to concede that we are ignorant and leave Zimmerman alone. "Better that 100 guilty go free than an innocent be condemned." Ring any bells?
But there's an almost sure slam dunk on a civil case.
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