Wow - North Korea agrees to suspend nuclear weapons tests and uranium enrichment
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ISTP sounds great Frem. I'd love to be considered a Crafter and an Artisan.
As it is, I came up INFJ, an Idealist who would be good at being a Counselor.
Although I agree with the Idealist part, I don't think somebody as plagued as me would make a great "how to do things" person when it comes to life lessons. Although, My uncle Gary was definitely an Idealist, and his approach at "how not to do things" was just as potent.
Maybe I need to just take some B12 supplements and I'll stop worrying about the problems of the world, and then I can focus more on my tools and having a few more spontaneous urges in my life so I can come up with the "right" test results. 
About Hunter, I remember what you said about him before. Not the exact words, but a more in-depth description of the Bohemian Grove thing....
Who knows... maybe he diddled a 15 year old girl (or boy) while at BG. I don't believe it, but when you're that far down the rabbit hole, a place that no mere mortal ever gets a chance to go, well... when in Rome.... right?
If anything like that happened, even if he didn't say anything about it or his experience there other than vague references, I truly believe it was because what ever he saw and/or did there was so depraved that it would not only ruin his life and reputation if it came out, but he might as well have painted a Scarlett A on every single person he was related to or associated with.
Unlike the temptations and addictions that the undercover Narcs face when going under deep cover, he was high profile enough to get into something that 99.9% of us would never even be able to touch.
If something like that really happened Frem, I think it's just a matter of time before it comes out. Don't give up on HT just because he's been dead for a few years.
A guy like that doesn't die without swinging unless he had an ace up his sleeve.
My belief is that sometime when I'm old and grey and near death that something will come out. A "media-time-bomb" that was just festering for years. (Think, Doc sending Marty McFly a FedEx package from 1885 to the very spot that Marty was standing on in 1985, and Joe Flaherty commenting on how he lost a bet that Marty would be there 100 years later to accept the package)
Secrets that were so horrific that he died for them. Not to save his own reputation and die a meaningless death, but to save his loved ones from the media barrage they'd receive if it came out now.
If Hunter TRULY was that deep in the rabbit hole, what was he supposed to do? Not partake (and maybe die as a consequence). Tell everyone what he saw after the fact, which would be impossible if he ruined his own credibility (think of Denzel Washington forcing Ethan Hawk to smoke the wiki-water weed). If he told anybody about it, he might as well have been the only Celebrity that was ever abducted by aliens and then told everyone the truth.
5% might believe him, but 20% of the rest would think he'd just finally gone crazy from the drugs, and the other 75% would believe anything the media told them to believe.
I'm glad you said you liked the guy, otherwise.
Wish there were more like him in the media spotlight.
Everyone we have is either mindlessly towing whatever line signs their paychecks, or they're mindlessly towing their own party's line...
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
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Well, actually, I'll pass some data to you via PM cause it's too ugly to discuss here.
Worth a note, I crossed paths and for a short time went to school with one of the witnesses, Alisha Owen, before they railroaded her for "perjury" and dumped her into solitary from which she mysteriously and conveniently dissapeared.
Oh, and I got the timing wrong, it was two days AFTER Gonzo got capped that they pulled in, interrogated and disappeared Rusty Nelson.
Beyond that, we're never likely to know Bill Colbys involvement neither, since he apparently decided to stand up right in the middle of lunch while eating it and go kayakking and conveniently have a "heart attack" and drown - yeah, right.
The why of that had nothing to do with this, but that loose end is unfortunately tied as well.
From the pieces though, a picture emerges and an ugly one - it's just that nobody has enough proof to drag it into a courtroom and nobody sane dares investigate not just out of fear of what might happen to them or their own sanity - but because they DO NOT WANT TO KNOW.
And given that the cartel in question is long destroyed (although not the games in question, which continued via Abramoff and now Prince) I am not sure what the point of bringing it all to light would be, what good it might serve.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
We're past that Oonjerah,
I've already said that I will refrain from refering to them as animals.
I believe I even posted another quote in my babbling about "if I was going to spend so many of my years as a kid being treated like a criminal, I was finally going to do the crime", or something along those lines, so I get what you're saying.
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
Finally you see the reality of the situation. These are an entire people, nations worth, who have been systematically "grounded" by the West for generations, pounded into the earth, told they were nothing, would never be anything, and had better accept that idea and the yoke and chain from their "betters".
And after long enough under the hammer, you eventually come to the realization that if indeed you are a nail, you also have the ability to inflict pain and poke the guy doing the hammering. Sometimes you just want the suffering to stop, and if that means an end to all you are and all you ever were, then so be it, as long as you get to take a few of the bastards along with you.
I don't AGREE with the mindset of suicide bombers, but I can certainly understand where and how they come to have that mindset. And believe it or not, so can you.
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By the way, Frem & Jack - Did y'all by any chance watch AMC's short-lived series "Rubicon"? If not, you should probably track it down when (if) it comes out on DVD. Very much one of the "how deep down the rabbit hole do you really want to go?" kind of shows, dealing with security theatre, terrorist threats, and who and how far they really go.
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Yes, and it was apallingly accurate - prolly why they cancelled it.
See, most of em did their real drinking at a pre-fab on post we called the black shack, since it limited the possibility of them saying something "out of school" while soused - and having already done some computer and other work for that crowd (which to this day I bitterly, bitterly regret cause it enabled them to set up the Main Core PROMIS database, or at least it's precursor, via the 902MI) there was the assumption that I was "in the know" and even if not officially cleared, wasn't someone you had to watch your mouth around...
Ergo I would play bartender for the crusty old bastards and listen to their stories, all the while planning to twist a knife in them fuckers the first chance I got, cause it really did illustrate just how much of a farce the nominal civilian "control" over the military and intel crowed is - they'll do what they'll do, lie about it, feed false information to congress, anything and everything to get their way, and be damned to anything else.
And if it ever comes to a head on that, the mask will come off and you'll see how REALLY ugly that can get - I think by now it's more or less an open secret that Kennedys intent to dismantle the evil manipulative bastards after the shit they pulled in regards to Cuba was the cause of his untimely demise.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Kennedys, Jack and Bobby ... They offed 'em both. 
Thus the need for more n more people power.
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Hi jack, I find your attitudes extreme.
One thing I remember after 9/11 was how quickly attidudes hardened in the US to acceptance of pre emptive action, torture, indefinite incarceration without trial of 'enemy combatants'. That was after one attack, a bad one admitedly, but to me it scraped away a facade of American values of being the good guys. I thought it was a petulant, childish response from a nation that has been so priveledged and so lucky.
That is how 'bad guys' are created. Exactly what Anthony has pointed out, dehumanise the enemy and then it doesn't matter what you do to him because he's not even a human being. The end result of your way of thinking IS strapping on the bomb, or blowing up Mecca, or razing the Middle East because it doesn't meet your standards. That is the kind of extremist thinking that has led to some pretty shocking atrocities in the past.
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I beg your pardon, Magons!
We're nowhere near done with our atrocious "peace keeping."
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I appreciate your input, Magonsdaughter....
I know this is a long thread, so I don't fault you for not reading it all before posting your opinions, but I have.... with the help of my Right and Left and Libertarian and Anarchist friends here, tempered my viewpoints.
Though I hold true that these people have been completely brainwashed to the point that all humanity has been sucked right out of their mind body and soul, I will refrain from calling them animals anymore.
That being said, I'm too burdened with worrying about me and my own to "fix" them, especially in this economy. I leave that duty to everyone here, on any "side" of the political spectrum who spoke up and said that I was wrong.
I truly do wish you all luck with that, and I hope that these empty shells of people, with your help, can once again rejoin the human race before they kill themselves and potentially 10's of thousands of people.
These words are 100% sincere,
~6
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I appreciate your input, Magonsdaughter....
I know this is a long thread, so I don't fault you for not reading it all before posting your opinions, but I have.... with the help of my Right and Left and Libertarian and Anarchist friends here, tempered my viewpoints.
Though I hold true that these people have been completely brainwashed to the point that all humanity has been sucked right out of their mind body and soul, I will refrain from calling them animals anymore.
That being said, I'm too burdened with worrying about me and my own to "fix" them, especially in this economy. I leave that duty to everyone here, on any "side" of the political spectrum who spoke up and said that I was wrong.
I truly do wish you all luck with that, and I hope that these empty shells of people, with your help, can once again rejoin the human race before they kill themselves and potentially 10's of thousands of people.
These words are 100% sincere,
~6
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
Some of you posts were quite long and rambly and I do admit to skimming. But it seems to me that while you have temperered your language, your have not tempered your views.
To my mind there has been a hell of a lot of brainwashing of Americans, to believe that they are special and unique in the world, that the rest of the world is either just America-lite, on its way to totalitarianism or already there, that the American way of life is something that every should aspire to, but that the benefits of freedom and prosperity are really only meant for Americans (coz its a bit scary when you have prosperous countries with different POV).
I don't think that your understanding of the situation in the Middle East is a particularly sophisticated one, in fact, I'd say you are quite naive or ignorant even. It's not just one big shit hole where people are either brainwashed fanatics or pining away because they cannot watch Justin Beiber. I think this kind of simplistic notions, no doubt shared by many americans and at least one president I can think of, coupled with a lot of power makes America quite a threatening country. And hell, I think that and we're supposed to be one of your closet allies.
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