Wow - North Korea agrees to suspend nuclear weapons tests and uranium enrichment
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Most of my music favorites pre-date my own generation by a lot. Here's another example of another great song that would keep people from bombing and shooting shit if they had an internet connection and more than sand and shit to sell.
The only people I could see bombing while listening to Listen to the Music are Hannibal Lecter and the Unibomber.
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
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They aren't people anymore. They have no scruples. They have no morals.
Hello,
You certainly have strong opinions.
Fortunately, I hold 'brainwashed' people in higher esteem.
To think of people as 'animals' or 'not people' can seriously impact the way you treat them.
And not in a good way.
--Anthony
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They aren't people anymore. They have no scruples. They have no morals.
Hello,
You certainly have strong opinions.
Fortunately, I hold 'brainwashed' people in higher esteem.
To think of people as 'animals' or 'not people' can seriously impact the way you treat them.
And not in a good way.
I certainly have strong opinions.
The next time your family is on a plane or working in the subway or mall or school that one of these ANIMALS want to attack, I hope they remembered to put on their SPF 2000 sunblock that morning.
Anyways, how does that impact the way I treat them, personally? I don't know any of them, at least the confirmed terrorists. You don't either, until it happens.
My favorite Liquor store salesman is "Andyana Jones". (His name is Andy and he's Indian). Hate me if you want for that reference, but at the same time, I bet I'm one of the only white dudes under 50 who calls him by his first name every time I come into the store. It's just a helpful mnemonic device.
My question to you Anthony, is how should I treat these sub-human creatures?
Would you be arguing me about this if they were messed up American kids with no scruples riddled with Heroin and Meth addictions?
I'm sorry, but at least the Meth heads and the Heroin addicts state-side are predictable.....
You never can tell what a God-Head will do until after they've done it!
Please remember,Anthony, before you post further, that I'm a right leaning libertarian that holds the church in much higher regard than a lot of the folk who post here. I may not be confirmed Catholic yet, at 32, and I may not tow the Rethuglican line 24/7, but the Demonocrats scare me even more......
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
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Hello,
Yes, I would still be arguing against your viewpoints if they were Meth addicts or whatnot.
I'll never understand the need to dehumanize a people in order to resist them.
--Anthony
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Ever think that understanding them, instead of dehumanizing them, is the key to pulling them out of that hell, to turning them off that path, Jack ?
Now yeah I know, there's folks upon who diplomacy ain't gonna work, people who have chosen evil, and in that case I ain't exactly above manipulating them.
But either way, you wanna get into their heads and defuse that insanity, either as a humanitarian gesture or as a manner of proxy self-defense, you gotta understand em, and dehumanizing em gets in the way of that.
I prefer to blame and assign the CONDUCT, rather than the individual who is, as a rule none too bright, propagandized, lied to, and stuck with about the shortest end of a stick the gods ever gave a someone - which frankly can and does apply to a lot of our troops too, yanno.
But them who give the orders, they're another breed entire, and animals is too kind a word for em, besides being yanno, an insult to the animal kingdom.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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I see where you're coming from Frem. I don't feel like I'm the one dehumanizing them though. The ones on top you mentioned already seem to have done a superb job of that already.
I'm sorry that I seem to be arguing with you and Anthony about this when we usually seem to be on the same page about a lot of issues.
I just think that, similar to a meth or heroin addict, these "people" are beyond help, and we should focus on making life better for those who haven't been tainted yet.
If the Middle Easterners want to set up PTSD trauma centers to try to rehabilitate and deprogram these people after they're standard of living is improved, I'm all for it.
You've got to pick your battles. Is it more important now to uproot the cause of the disease, or is it more important to put band-aids on the never ending supply of symptoms that will just pop up all around you?
To clarify my remarks, I don't believe that there are all that many people from the Middle East that are, what I refer to as animals, as compared to the population as a whole. Most of them are just sad-sacks looking for a leg up, and most of them even in their shit lives are strong enough to resist the temptations of the manipulators.
Worry about rehabilitation of the tainted ones 2nd. 1st priority should be to teach the innocents how to fish for themselves, and not rely either on the US or on their own corrupt leaders for anything.
Once they can do that, and they can afford cable TV and McDonalds, they'll have more free time and resources to help their lost friends and family members.
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I just think that, similar to a meth or heroin addict, these "people" are beyond help
Hello,
I wasn't aware that addicts were beyond help?
It should never be necessary to dehumanize your enemy in order to fight him.
That is what the enemy does.
That is not what we should do.
--Anthony
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Hey Anthony,
How expensive do you want this to be for us (The US and any other country who would view this solution as a good investment in the future of peace)?
I'm suggesting what I think is a VERY good solution to curing the disease of a destitute Middle Eastern populace ripe for the picking to be slaves of their God.
As I stated in the last post, the "tainted" ones are not a priority at this stage. Even if you spent the massive amounts up front to rehabilitate them, until the root cause of the taint is eliminated, there is an endless supply of "fresh meat" to program.
These people, by choice, have already dehumanized themselves. I'm quite sure at this stage they don't give two shits about what my opinion of them are, so it's all a moot point anyhow.
Fix the real problem, then comb backwards and try to rehabilitate anyone who can be saved.
Sure, most junkies will go right back to the drugs within a month of rehabilitation, but I'm sure they have people there who care enough about them to try hard to make it happen when their lives otherwise are more stabilized. It's hard to have family support for any addiction if the family who wants to support you is living their own life on an Olympic standard balance beam.
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I felt that I should emphasize that I'm only referring to the pawns of this game on the other side in dehumanizing terms.
I'm NOT suggesting that these pawns/animals are even the enemy. As Frem noted in his post, it's the puppet masters that are the true enemy.
I do feel sorry for them, those who have actually commuted horrible acts at the sacrifice of their own life, and those who are today being programmed to do so in the future.
There is nothing that can be done for any of them though until the root issue is eliminated.
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
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I take your point, but I still feel "Damn deluded fools" is a more accurate assessment than animals.
-F
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Hello,
You tell me that they have dehumanized themselves.
Then let them refer to themselves as animals. Let them refer to us as animals. But never refer to them as animals.
You tell me not to worry about dehumanizing them, because worrying about that is not the priority.
I say it is the first priority: Do not become the enemy.
Once you dehumanize them, there is no limit to how cruelly and woefully they can be treated. If they remain human in your eyes, then human standards of conduct will always apply in your dealings with them.
So, any premise that begins with 'they are inhuman and don't worry about it' will be opposed by me because that is a vile and reprehensible foundation upon which nothing good can be built. It is merely the keystone for cruelty.
Release such rhetoric, and you will have my attention in regards to your good plans and intentions. Hold to that rhetoric, clutch it close with cackling glee, and you are my foe.
My human foe.
And you are closer to me than they are.
--Anthony
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