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"Racism is dead in America." Bullshit

POSTED BY: Niki2
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NIKI2

Friday, March 16, 2012 7:47 PM

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Trayvon a 17 year old African American boy was shot in a gated community where his father lives in Florida. He was shot by a self-appointed White Community Watch Captain who was walking around with a gun. Zimmerman the community watch person decided Trayvon looked suspicious. All the boy had was candy and a drink. He was not bothering anyone. He was simply walking from the store to his father's house. So we have to ask ourselves what about the boy made him "look" suspicious? Zimmerman approached the boy after calling the police and the police telling him not to follow the boy.

Disregarding the police Zimmerman approached the boy with a gun and the boy attempted to defend himself. Now Zimmerman who weighed about 100 pounds more than the boy and had a gun is claimng self defense. He shot and killed this innocent boy. The police have not arrested Zimmerman because they claim there is no evidence or witness to counter his claim of self defense. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-761553?hpt=hp_bn2

Nobody's posted about this one, perhaps because it represents a common enough occurrence that we don't pay much attention. But I've been following it, and it's not only outrageous, it's another example of the fact that racisim isn't only alive and well in America, it's allowed.

People on the right keep bitching about the left "playing the race card". It's not a card, it's a reality, and denying it is a political ploy, nothing else.

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Many claim that racism served as a motivation in the shooting. 'It points to what researchers have termed unconscious racism,' she said. 'People are not even aware of their biases. The fact that people identify with the shooter over a murdered child is disturbing.' Same

It's a lot more than "disturbing" to me, it's horrific. Will this ever change? Not until people stop claiming that "racism is dead in America".

ANTHONYT

Friday, March 16, 2012 7:54 PM

Hello,

This is terrible.

Even if we imagine that the perpetrator is a hard-core racist, I find the story shocking.

This is some wrong-thinking vigilante B.S. with a firearm. You can't just go around hunting human beings because you feel empowered with a firearm in your hand. Jesus.

--Anthony

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Note to self: Mr. Raptor believes that women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.

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Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.

STORYMARK

Friday, March 16, 2012 8:10 PM

Could be racism, could just be some idiot too eager to use his gun.

I believe we have a member here (who thankfully rarely posts anymore) who is just that type - looking for a reason.

Spoon!

STORYMARK

Friday, March 16, 2012 8:13 PM

And, not to distract from the article, on the broader topic of this thread - if racism was really dead - this wouldn't be a hot selling bumper sticker:

Spoon!

NIKI2

Friday, March 16, 2012 11:57 PM

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You can't just go around hunting human beings because you feel empowered with a firearm in your hand.

Apparently you still CAN, in America! The article, by the way, was written by a young black girl.

There's more to the story; if you checked it all, you'd see it's pretty obviously that a black kid was walking in a gated community at night...and you know how THAT goes!

Jaysus...what state was that bumper sticker in?!?! I know it weren't California...guess who'd be lynched?

OONJERAH

Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:13 AM

You can still use that bumper sticker in Placerville, CA. Just don't leave the county.
BTW, we do have black people living here now ... only a few brave ones.

NIKI2

Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:12 PM

Wow...well, that IS redneck country to a degree. If you ignore all the yuppies taking root, that is! I'm amazed. But then, there are places even in CA where these things still abound.

I drive through Placerville every time I go up to visit Paula...I think it's neat! Do you live in Placerville itself, or somewhere else in Placer County? If you're right there in town or around, I'd love to meet next time I go up (Paula's JUST on the East side of the Sierras). You get any snow from that last blast? It was warm here and one of the Bay Area Mushers (who I run with down here) was complaining that the snow fell and disappeared the same day from that last storm. Hope they get snow so they can get some real mushing in, they've all been grousing this year (so has Paula!).

I envy you Placerville. I consider it hitting the FIRST of the mountains...up until then it's just more Saccamenna highway. Neat place; I take the Mormon Immigrant Trail down sometimes--nice countryside.

We got POUNDED down here--Monsoon-like, the Outback barely survived and I had to re-attach some of its anchors. Thank goodness the rain had let up when I did...and I did because I went to check and found a HUGE bubble of water sitting right over the head of my bed! Tarp anchor had come loose on the other end and tarp was just sliiiiiding over from the weight of the water. Eeep! All is well today, tho' you can't see out any of the windows in the house for the moisture! Basement flooded, but that's predictable.

Anyone else get snow? Or survive the deluge?

Not to thread jack or anything...

KPO

Saturday, March 17, 2012 4:41 PM

I caught this story on Anderson Cooper. And yes, it stinks. It's the police action (or non-action) that worries me most.

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The police have not arrested Zimmerman because they claim there is no evidence or witness to counter his claim of self defense.

It astonishes me that a man can stalk and harrass a man going about his business, provoke an altercation, and then shoot him and claim self-defense, no questions asked. The US self-defence laws (or the application of them?) seem bizarre to me.

Whether or not the shooting/initial harrassment was racially motivated, I can't help but think that the police non-action WAS. If it was a white kid lying on the ground is there any chance that the shooter would've been released on the spot?

It's not personal. It's just war.

ANTHONYT

Saturday, March 17, 2012 5:54 PM

Hello,

I am very curious as to what deadly weapon or life-threatening damage this victim wielded or caused to make the police side with the perpetrator.

And if none? Why on Earth isn't this being pursued as a possible crime?

There have been legitimate self-defense scenarios that have been much more vigorously investigated than this farce.

--Anthony

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Note to self: Mr. Raptor believes that women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.

Reference thread: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=51196

Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by kpo:
Whether or not the shooting/initial harrassment was racially motivated, I can't help but think that the police non-action WAS. If it was a white kid lying on the ground is there any chance that the shooter would've been released on the spot?

Nope, and I find that offensive as hell - he went and PROVOKED a confrontation, despite being advised not to, which resulted in a needless fatality.
And one which factually he had no business doin regardless - someone walkin down the street with a pop and candy is zero threat, someone even BLATANTLY casing your site with a pop and candy is zero threat so long as they are under observation, so why approach and start something for no reason ?

Mind you, this is why I don't get on well with other security specialists, they got too much of that fuckin cartman-attitude going on and not half enough restraint, and many of em have anger-emotion-ego issues which have precluded a career in law enforcement or military, and often as not those who are former LEO or military are WORSE.
For our interview policy, either one of those things is a -50 up front (-100 being a no-hire) cause they're just flat incapable of behaving themselves like a human being.

And that most of all, is THE most important part of being a good guard.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.