European court says 'kettling' tactics in 2001 lawful
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Anyone who was actually prevented from leaving a building has been injured. (This does not include a generic fear of unwashed masses, but rather someone actually preventing them from leaving, or harming them when they attempt to leave.)
So if folks are smashing the windows of your building, you're still not being imprisoned because the folks doing the vandalism might not hurt you if you tried to leave?
Seems you're pretty free with other folk's safety.
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But people who don't do these things are not criminals and can't be treated as criminals on the assumption that they will do these things.
And we're back to the perfect world again, where folks who are planning criminal acts and publicly declare so don't hide among the mass of protestors and don't neglect to wear their "I'm planning on doing some crime" placards.
Or we could have enough police to escort every individual protestor. Does that seem like a good solution?
And once again, you seem to be ignoring the rights of the folks who just want to peacefully travel through or do business when protestors show up and, just by sheer numbers, make that impossible.
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Hello,
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So if folks are smashing the windows of your building, you're still not being imprisoned because the folks doing the vandalism might not hurt you if you tried to leave?
Seems you're pretty free with other folk's safety.
Don't be silly. You never said the people's building was being actively attacked in your previous post.
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And we're back to the perfect world again
Of course! If we can't have a perfect world, it must be imperfect on the side of authority and not on the side of liberty.
Freedom is dangerous. If some people get hurt because other people aren't being infringed upon, that's the imperfect world you're talking about.
The world where people are detained wholesale just in case? Where authority is imposed on the premise of nobody getting hurt, without any actual evidence of crime? That's not an imperfect world. It's a bad one.
--Anthony
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