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North Korea? ... NM.
Quote Riona: "I don't want to have to pay for terraforming the middle east."
Reclamation of desertified lands.
Couple weeks back when y'all were going round & round about Iran/Israel, I tried to make that
point a few times as clearly as I could.
The Arab lands need water, need top soil. The Israelis did it, why can't they?
My guess is: TPTB over there are richer than Croesus with oil money. Yet their economies are undeveloped,
except for oil. The land could be reclaimed if those fat sheiks would just say the word, & buy a little
equipment. Watching that sort of mismanagement is extremely frustrating.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Your mistake is in assuming the MIddle East *wants* "the American way of life", or that it's even a desirable thing.
There's no "mistake" being made here. I'm sure that, the kids especially, would love to be worshiping Justin Beiber and Selena Gomez in the Middle East, if they weren't so busy getting their heads filled with 100% devotion to Allah everyday because they live in a world where to the average citizen life is so shitty that in 2012 they still manage to cover their women from head to toe in black garbage bags.
I'm not proposing a Middle East without God, or without their own history, anymore than I'm suggesting that an America that is fruitful enough for people to decide to be 100% devout or 100% atheist hasn't "fixed" Christianity today.
The mediazation of the Middle East isn't something we'd even need to initiate if they had fertile land and weren't covered in sand. If things started going well for them and they had even a half hour of free time a day to jack off, they'd be watching things coming from more advanced cultures and the people there would be clamoring for more.
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Osama bin Laden's main problem with the West started with what he saw as the Americanization of the globe.
Bad example man. Would you just as readily quote Hitler and his beliefs? Of course he was against Americanization, especially considering everyone in his country lived like mole people in the hills with sand in their ass cracks and the women were more than happy to wear full-body trash bags if only to take refuge from the sand storms.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Well... Most of the youngest generation actually wants all the new media and the technology, but the trick they're having to face is balancing that with their also deeply held cultural values.
But the older generations, yeah, kind of think everything is potentially a corrupting influence.
Yep Byte,
Same old story for generations in the US. My late great-grandmother, if she hadn't died 20 years ago, would have had a heart attack if she saw how girls dress up in the warm weather today.
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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I don't want to have to pay for terraforming the middle east. That's expensive. Of course right now we're spending oodles of money fighting wars over there, which isn't desirable either. But still.
Jack, your China comment made me laugh, but you have a point.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
I don't want to have to pay for terraforming the Middle East either. But, you're right, how much do we waste every year there policing an area that could have been better spent. Just because Osama Bin Laden is gone, it doesn't mean that there aren't 40 others waiting in line to take over for him.
As I said before, these "people" are animals. Take out the Alpha Male, and there's a young pup just waiting to take the throne.
Cut them off at the knees.
Cut warfare spending in the Mid East by 1/4 TODAY, and at the same time spend only half of those savings on Terraforming the Middle East and in 10 years the dividends on that saved taxpayer money will grow exponentially. At that point, keep it up for another 10 years while bumping up the amount of money going to Terraforming and in 20 years not only will we be collecting interest from the Middle East on the work done, but we'll be able to throw the department of Homeland Security out the window.
Not sure why the China comment made you laugh Riona, but I'm glad I could bring a smile to your face.
The potential China threat in the next 20-50 years is very real and very serious. This Middle East bullshit is just a red herring. I'd love to be the ones that helped put them on their feet and got them on the same page as us by then. They'd make a great ally if things ever REALLY got bad with our Chinese relations.
Frem,
Man... that was one hell of a post!
What
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Your mistake is in assuming the MIddle East *wants* "the American way of life", or that it's even a desirable thing.
There's no "mistake" being made here. I'm sure that, the kids especially, would love to be worshiping Justin Beiber and Selena Gomez in the Middle East, if they weren't so busy getting their heads filled with 100% devotion to Allah everyday because they live in a world where to the average citizen life is so shitty that in 2012 they still manage to cover their women from head to toe in black garbage bags.
I'm not proposing a Middle East without God, or without their own history, anymore than I'm suggesting that an America that is fruitful enough for people to decide to be 100% devout or 100% atheist hasn't "fixed" Christianity today.
The mediazation of the Middle East isn't something we'd even need to initiate if they had fertile land and weren't covered in sand. If things started going well for them and they had even a half hour of free time a day to jack off, they'd be watching things coming from more advanced cultures and the people there would be clamoring for more.Quote:
Osama bin Laden's main problem with the West started with what he saw as the Americanization of the globe.
Bad example man. Would you just as readily quote Hitler and his beliefs? Of course he was against Americanization, especially considering everyone in his country lived like mole people in the hills with sand in their ass cracks and the women were more than happy to wear full-body trash bags if only to take refuge from the sand storms.Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Well... Most of the youngest generation actually wants all the new media and the technology, but the trick they're having to face is balancing that with their also deeply held cultural values.
But the older generations, yeah, kind of think everything is potentially a corrupting influence.
Yep Byte,
Same old story for generations in the US. My late great-grandmother, if she hadn't died 20 years ago, would have had a heart attack if she saw how girls dress up in the warm weather today.Quote:
Originally posted by RionaEire:
I don't want to have to pay for terraforming the middle east. That's expensive. Of course right now we're spending oodles of money fighting wars over there, which isn't desirable either. But still.
Jack, your China comment made me laugh, but you have a point.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
I don't want to have to pay for terraforming the Middle East either. But, you're right, how much do we waste every year there policing an area that could have been better spent. Just because Osama Bin Laden is gone, it doesn't mean that there aren't 40 others waiting in line to take over for him.
As I said before, these "people" are animals. Take out the Alpha Male, and there's a young pup just waiting to take the throne.
Cut them off at the knees.
Cut warfare spending in the Mid East by 1/4 TODAY, and at the same time spend only half of those savings on Terraforming the Middle East and in 10 years the dividends on that saved taxpayer money will grow exponentially. At that point, keep it up for another 10 years while bumping up the amount of money going to Terraforming and in 20 years not only will we be collecting interest from the Middle East on the work done, but we'll be able to throw the department of Homeland Security out the window.
Not sure why the China comment made you laugh Riona, but I'm glad I could bring a smile to your face.
The potential China threat in the next 20-50 years is very real and very serious. This Middle East bullshit is just a red herring. I'd love to be the ones that helped put them on their feet and got them on the same page as us by then. They'd make a great ally if things ever REALLY got bad with our Chinese relations.
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Look to Dubai for leadership in this area. Of course, that would require you to actually open your eyes, which I doubt you're capable of.
Been waiting on that for a while......
For more than a little while....
When should I stop looking?
now.....?
Now.....?
NOW.....?
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
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There are none so blind as those who will not see...
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What's your answer Kwicko?
I think a good plan of Terraforming has been laid out here.
I'm all about a reduction in military force and imperialism.
What do you think should be done?
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
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Ew, Dubai is where all the dirty rutters who abuse their wives and won't let them do anything go to let loose and rut with whoever they want. I don't think anyone should be looking to them for guidence, unless they want to master the craft of hypocracy. Now the one thing that Dubai does do well is get people to spend lots of money.
Jack, could we please not call people animals. If you want to say that some of them _behave like animals I won't object, but saying they _are animals is not a way to win friends or influence people, plus its just mean.
I laughed about China because its true and so it resinated with me.
And Jack, do you really think Salena Gomez and Justin Bieber are really worth that much attention, they get plenty from American kids, they don't need more from kids in the middle east. I don't think fawning over celebutantes is really a high water mark of civilized society/something to emulate and encourage. I mean really.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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Anybody who would strap a bomb on their chest or down a plane that they're on to take out other people is an animal. I won't sugar coat that. It's not as if I'm lumping in everyone and calling all Muslims animals.
I think they have me beat on meanness here.
I think that kids could do worse than falling into the childhood celeb thing. It's not anything to brag about, but at least kids watching that fluff crap aren't going to be bombing anybody or shooting up their own school. I guaranty you that the most recent shooting in the news was done by a kid that never watched them.
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
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Anybody who would strap a bomb on their chest or down a plane that they're on to take out other people is an animal.
Hello,
I never thought of Kamikaze aviators as being animals before...
...I still don't.
--Anthony
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Note to self: Mr. Raptor believes that women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.
Reference thread: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=51196
Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.
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Hello,
I never thought of Kamikaze aviators as being animals before...
...I still don't.
--Anthony
Did these brave Japanese men die for their wives and children, and for other tangible things that we cherish, such as our comfortable way of life before war (just like the deaths of our own children in an unwinnable and unending war)?
Or, did were they brainwashed into non-thinking robot ANIMALS through 24/7 religious brainwashing that likely involved drugs, paid women and many other creature comforts that we take for granted in America, yet these teens grow up thinking could only possibly happen in heaven?
I have NO argument against dying for freedom.
I have NO argument against dying in the name of the ideals you hold the dearest, when the walls are surrounding you and your family and friends.
In fact, I think that day of truth might come for many of us if things keep going the way they're going state-side.
What I DO have a problem with is the RICH OIL CARTELS in the Middle East keeping everything to themselves and keeping the other 99% of the people in absolute sand-infested poverty shit. The have-nots have absolutely no distractions from how shitty their own lives are and no idea that others live in better circumstances. If they question this idea, they're told that a better way of life on earth is a sin and something only the heathens in Europe and America indulge in.
Imagine yourself, utterly penurious and completely unable to support yourself let alone your family, being sucked into some "scheme" to help your family have food in their mouth. At first, your intentions are honorable, but when you have nothing to offer anyone before being snagged, you just follow along and obey. One day, you're an ANIMAL wearing a bomb, ready to take out as many "heathens" with you as you possibly can for the GOD that showed you for the last year how good life could be (likely with drugs, and paid hookers who were likely brainwashed themselves), and the promise that the only good experience you've ever had in life on earth will be your eternity if you obey your Masters.
These ANIMALS were once people. They aren't people anymore. They have no scruples. They have no morals. They have nothing to live or die for except for a promise of a better afterlife for their GOD.
As much as I cringe when I see the Kamakazi bombers during WWII, I hold the same respect for them that you do. They were fighting for their respectable way of life. They were fighting to maintain that way of life for their wives and children and their children's children.
(Sure, they were probably brainwashed as well, but at least they had good intentions)
Any Middle Easterner willing to do the "same" thing today for the promise of heaven in a theoretical God's presence is just a mindless robot. Their God wouldn't tell them to do that. But they don't know that. They're just easily manipulated and expendable puppets used by the STATE to carry out the ugly orders.
They're sacrificing their lives to save SHIT!
And their MASTERS know it.
What a fool believes.....
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
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