Real World Event Discussions

The drugs thread - marijuana, tobacco, caffeine, cigarettes et al

POSTED BY: Magonsdaughter
UPDATED: Monday, March 30, 2026 18:14
VIEWED: 21647
PAGE 4 of 9

Friday, March 2, 2012 4:14 AM

I have a funny...

Most of the guys my husband works with do something illegal...And every time they get sent for "random" drug tests and get popped they get fired and re-hired 60 days later...Well this cuts into the workforce, and thus profits...

They know my husband doesn't do anything, so they keep sending him in for these supposedly "random" tests because they have to do a set number of them... He's gone for drug testing about 30 times in the last four years.

My husband, the cleanest man in America, heh. And they have to pluck out chest hairs every time, so fun for him... His brother makes them take his pubes

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Friday, March 2, 2012 1:26 PM

Less funny is that those things are far less accurate or reliable than advertised.

I happen to like poppyseed muffins and innocently made the mistake of having some with breakfast on the morning of an interview which included a drug screening - this was when I was much younger and didn't automatically reject any employment offer which got too far into my bizness.

This damn near got me arrested, did get me hassled, blacklisted, and led to me investigating and mocking drug testing forevermore - and yet despite incident after incident, such as the herbal shampoo and soap false positives for GHB (frankly if a cop is testing your shampoo he's LOOKIN for a false positive as an excuse) or false positives off bagels or muffins, people believe in the false assurances of the drug war scam despite the evidence saying something altogether different.

Although to add some funny back into it, the realty corp we're sort of a subcorp of, the property manager made it abundantly clear that if I ever had to knock back some booze in order to function through the pain I should do so cause she'd rather have me doin the job half cooked than some less skilled yahoo clean sober.
That came on the heels of getting lightly bawled out for working a shift half-delerious with a triple digit fever, which I don't even remember despite accurately filing a maintanence log of broken lights....

-Frem

Links:
http://www.drbronner.com/punk_rock_soap_opera.html
http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/poppyseed.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppy_seed#False_positive_drug_tests
http://lawdiva.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/newborns-apprehended-from-moth
ers-who-ate-poppy-seeds
/
http://reason.com/blog/2010/11/09/eat-a-bagel-lose-your-baby

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Friday, March 2, 2012 5:17 PM

Oonj, pretty much the way it is in CA. The cops have better things to do, and don't give a shit. It's the feds who cause the problems here.

As to employment testing, I had my own experience. I applied for a job after my first disability when the p-doc said it was too early. I wanted to get back to work. Applied for an insurance company in the City...didn't much like them, so smoked dope the night before. Wouldn't have mattered anyway, because it takes 30 days to get completely out of your system. They never said a word and hired me. Last real job I had and I ADORED it as it turned out. The office politics were awful so I tried to stay out of them; my only co-worker was hellacious, always complained, took "stress" leave every chance she got, her work sucked, she threatened to sue if they gave her any shit, etc., etc. I actually managed to train her on some stuff, and encouraged her and complimented her and she improved somewhat. It was desktop publishing and I really shined, and loved it more than about any job I've had. Then came the nationwide layoffs, and because it was the rule, they had to let me go and keep her. All those we serviced were majorly pissed, and two of them actually QUIT! One was a friend and we hiked together; she kept in touch with some in the company and said everything got tons worse after that. Always been sad about that. That's the job where I got to go to Lucasfilms as we wrote their insurance policy, and I did a log for them that they decided to USE as a result. Damn, I loved that job!

So much for drug testing in California; I was damned lucky!

And Magons, yes, pizza is definitely very different in Italy! We traveled to Verona three times back when we were working in the City and making good money; the pizza was wonderful, and unlike anything we have here.


NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Saturday, March 3, 2012 4:03 AM

Hello all,

If I may present myself on the floor of the FFF RWED crowd as a test subject, I'd like to chime in on the effects of, and the effects of being off of sweet Mary Jane.

Up until almost a year ago mid march of 2011, I had probably smoked pot 300 days a year or more.

I finally, reluctantly, cleaned myself up when I knew the job I could probably get with my contacts had a hair follicle policy (6 months positive, at least).



The first 5 years I was on pot, I was obsessive and compulsive. These five years were about mindless partying. If I didn't have a party to go to or friends who wanted to go to a bar, I was lost. This was worst during winter storms when nobody wanted to go out. My only other obsession those days were going to the gym to put on weight. In 2 years, I went from a 130lb 5'7" weakling to a 200lb brick shit house.

The second 5 years I was on pot, I completely threw out the bodybuilding and partying and all but completely isolated myself outside of contact with people at work and I obsessively saved my money after moving out of state for a great job. I also obsessively worked on an online community gaming project (a maker, not a player) that would make your head spin if you knew the time put into it when I wasn't at work and how much we got done.

Now.... One year off pot. I obsessively work on my rehab project house. (Having lost most of my beer gut is just an awesome side effect to not smoking pot and the actions my current obsession make me take on a daily basis).



The only real difference these days while off pot is I probably drink a lot more beer to compensate for the lack of it.




Not that I remember much before the pot daze, but I know that when I was a little kid, I obsessively played Atari after school (other kids were probably doing homework, but I got that all done before school was over). And years after Nintendo came out and we still didn't have one, I would dream about Super Mario Bros 1, 2 and 3 before we finally had one.




My personal opinion of pot?

It's a wash....

I was f'd up on it, for sure....

But I'm f'd up off it now....

And I was f'd up before I even knew what it was.


Not much has changed.



In the end though, I have to give the final thumbs up to the pro-pot crowd.

Why?

Have you ever had an orgasm?


Well...

Have you ever had an orgasm on WEED man?



"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Sunday, March 4, 2012 2:18 AM


"LOS ANGELES — The prosecutor who took the rare step of charging a doctor with murder
in the prescription drug overdose deaths of three patients said Friday that the case should
serve as a warning to unethical physicians who become pill pushers."
=> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/02/dr-hsui-ying-lisa-tseng-docto
r-feelgood_n_1316262.html


I mention this because, I knew for a long time that my heart Dr. is a pill pusher.
When I discovered that he's also a pusher of unneeded stents, I quit him.

Eventho I know so little compared to a Dr., I still have to be responsible.



Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

"LOS ANGELES — The prosecutor who took the rare step of charging a doctor with murder
in the prescription drug overdose deaths of three patients said Friday that the case should
serve as a warning to unethical physicians who become pill pushers."
=> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/02/dr-hsui-ying-lisa-tseng-docto
r-feelgood_n_1316262.html


I mention this because, I knew for a long time that my heart Dr. is a pill pusher.
When I discovered that he's also a pusher of unneeded stents, I quit him.

Eventho I know so little compared to a Dr., I still have to be responsible.



Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.





I don't trust ANYBODY who would prescribe man-made toxins (poisons) before looking at weed first as an alternative.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Sunday, March 11, 2012 7:32 AM


  NADH = nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide, a liver enzyme.

  For those addicted to cigarettes and with any symptoms of
  niacin deficiency, I believe a NADH supplement can be helpful.

  I stopped smoking shortly after I began taking it ... in 2002.




             

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

  NADH = nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide, a liver enzyme.

  For those addicted to cigarettes and with any symptoms of
  niacin deficiency, I believe a NADH supplement can be helpful.

  I stopped smoking shortly after I began taking it ... in 2002.




              ]

Hello,

Aha! Perhaps this is the secret of Hepatitis!

Brilliant!

--Anthony



_______________________________________________

Note to self: Mr. Raptor believes that women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.

Reference thread: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=51196

Never forget what this man is. You keep forgiving him his trespasses and speak to him as though he is a reasonable human being. You keep forgetting the things he's advocated. If you respond to this man again, you are being foolish.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, May 7, 2019 9:16 PM

'Magic mushroom' on Denver ballot https://www.wdtn.com/news/u-s-world/magic-mushroom-decriminalization-o
n-denver-ballot/1983681370

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, May 7, 2019 10:12 PM

Wow. Seven years ago we used to have real discussions. That was before Trump Derangement Syndrome took hold, and a lot of people became stupid trolls. What a diffeence.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME