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The drugs thread - marijuana, tobacco, caffeine, cigarettes et al

POSTED BY: Magonsdaughter
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Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:18 PM


Well that five bucks (as opposed to $8-$13) don't hurt neither, I can score two of em for $10.60 which is actually a respectable amount of food for the price.
Which thanks to my ex is actually a common bribery unit since the nomenclature of the bribe matters when trying to weasel something out of me, ergo the locals generally open the bid with X amount of LC Pizzas....

-F

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:38 PM


Oh, and back on topic, this...

Colorado Medical Marijuana Users Got the Full SWAT Treatment Because of Their Legal Plants
http://reason.com/blog/2012/02/28/colorado-medical-marijuana-users-sus
pici


What bothers me worst about this, is that in many localities, especially around here, Cops get ANGRY when the law is changed, and instead of DOING THEIR JOB, then go and decide they got some kinda divine right to re-interpret the law at whim or ignore it, which at that point IMHO reduces them to nothing more than just one more pack of armed thugs, if they were ever more than that in the first place.
I've had *that* conversation more than once with our local authorities, some of whom believe medical marijuana should be illegal and plan to treat it as such, and damn what the law really is...
Which makes a mockery of the law, of even HAVING law, or people to enforce it, does it not ?

The other thing which rooks me about this is the all too common issue of using a refusal to allow an unjustified search, *AS* an excuse to force a search - that's just plain bullshit, any way you slice it.

One of the measures I've recently thrown in the face of local authorities, is the idea of a CIVILIAN review board for police conduct drawn from the neighborhoods being served, so they can appropriately decide for themselves whether they are being protected or preyed on by their police force - actual community oversight, which I think since they pay the taxes which finance these jerks they got something of a right to...

Well, given the amount of distortion, lies, exaggeration and just flat out bullshit which is shovelled to obtain search warrants, and the complete FAILURE of most Judges to even question the obvious ones, I think that civvie review board out to be a required signatory to any search warrant which would enable the use of SWAT or a Tac-Team, what say you ?

Also, it has come up in the Godboldo case that no Judge actually signed the already-illegal order sans warrant which was used to justify that mess - that Mia Wenk simply grabbed a rubber stamp with the Judges signature and used that instead.

Now, question one, why the hell do them things even EXIST ?
These days with modern fax and other electronic communications there's NO excuse for a Judge not signing a document by hand, and the entire REASON to require such is so that the Judge in question at least pretends to read the bloody thing first.

Second, is not the potential for abuse OBVIOUS here ?
How many of these warrants, if these stamps are being used, are ever actually even read/seen by the Judge who's signature gets stamped on them ?
I mean, this is worse, in a way, than the foreclosure-fraud robosigning, cause if cops can just crank out bullshit warrants and rubberstamp them (ironic given how much of a "rubber stamp" the clueless berks on the bench are usually anyways) without even having to inform the damn judge, it makes a mockery of due process.

So hell yes I want that civilian review board, and I am most certainly throwing in the proviso that they'll have to additionally countersign any warrant which is intended to be processed by SWAT or the Tac-Team.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 5:20 PM

Frem - pizza as an addictive substance - ROFL!

Hey man, whatchu holding?

Got some Red Baron right here. No? I can maybe score you some DiGiorno, gimme an hour.

Got any Tombstone?

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 5:31 PM

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
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Magons, initially you didn't say "heavy use over a long time", you said "heavy use AND long term".


I think you're splitting hairs here! I'm pretty sure that none of my posts said 'having a joint here or there or occasionally.' I really have been referring to people who use it regularly and for for a long time. The heavier the use, the more serious the consequences for most people. Like alcohol.



I know successful working professionals who have smoked it every day for decades, with no adverse effect.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 5:53 PM

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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
Frem - pizza as an addictive substance - ROFL!

Hey man, whatchu holding?

Got some Red Baron right here. No? I can maybe score you some DiGiorno, gimme an hour.

Got any Tombstone?


*hysterics*

Even funnier, this.



-Frem
PS. That's less of a joke than you think, Pizza Hut in part financially supported the second season of Code Geass in exchange for product placement which comes across as hilarious cause one of the characters (C.C.) has a similar weakness for pizza.

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Thursday, March 1, 2012 6:45 PM

Well, you guys can argue pizza all day, but we owned a Round Table and I can tell you without hesitation it IS the "last honest pizza"! The franchise was very strict about quality, as were we; we bought our ground beef fresh every morning, as well as our veggies, and Jim was proud that we served the best pizza in town, in the opinion of our customers. The food is the ONLY damned thing I miss about that place, and we mourn to this day that we couldn't get our hands on the recipes for the sauce and dough. We LIVED on pizza, and I wouldn't even say the name in the same sentence as Pizza Hut or those other fakers. So THERE! ;o)


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Friday, March 2, 2012 12:26 AM

I think a civilian review board is a great idea Frem, that way the cops can't get away with stuff they shouldn't be doing.

And yeah, judges should have to sign warrants by hand I totally agree, we have become wayyyyyy too dependent on technology, or rubber stamps in this case.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Friday, March 2, 2012 2:03 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

I know successful working professionals who have smoked it every day for decades, with no adverse effect.




I know successful working professionals who drink every day. My manager is still smoking 20 a day after 40 years with no visible harm to her either.

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Friday, March 2, 2012 2:06 AM

I despise franchised food outlets. We have a nice local run by italians with the checked table clothes that make very nice pizza, but its just a meal and not an obsession like it appears to be with some americans. I usually order a vegetarian with chilli and anchovies or a margherita. I also don't like over topped pizzas or pizzas with processed meats. Simpler is better.

In Italy, pizza is a very different experience.

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Friday, March 2, 2012 3:01 AM


A neighbor grew pot for a couple of years in his tiny greenhouse. In summer, the plants mostly were in the yard, basking in the sun.
Two former neighbors were visiting him one evening, & as they are friends of mine, too, I was there. The manager didn't like
them, and that meant they were "trespassing." She called the cops. Soon a tall, calm deputy sheriff appeared. He talked to the
visitors for a bit, saw that they were invited guests causing no trouble and began to move on.
He didn't ask about the lovely pot plants.
My neighbor was terribly disappointed by this and said something like, "Er, Officer, I have permit for these plants. Would you
like to see it?"
Officer, "No thanks. I could care less."

My kinda cop!


Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

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