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7 in 10 U.S. Protestant pastors reject evolution

POSTED BY: SignyM
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SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:47 PM

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A 2010 Gallup [also] poll found that 40% of Americans believe God created humans in their present form, versus 54% who said humans developed over millions of years.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/10/survey-u-s-protestant-pastors
-reject-evolution-split-on-earths-age/?hpt=hp_t3

No wonder we're so screwed up as a nation. Our moral leaders are the equivalent of flat-earthers. Direct observations are tossed in favor of complex and implausible stories, and questions are not allowed.

Now, anyone who ditches the real world in favor of a belief system, and who dumps questioning and thought in favor of faith, is going to have a real hard time parsing any OTHER positions for credibility, whether those positions are political, commercial (Do you have brand loyalty? The brains of Apple fans light up just like a religious convert's), economic, or social.

A nation of believers is a nation of sheep.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:05 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

A nation of believers is a nation of sheep.

I believe you're right.

"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. - Someone.

CANTTAKESKY

Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:11 PM

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I believe you're right.

LOL. Pot, meet kettle.

We are all believers. We just believe different things.

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I love, therefore I am.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, January 11, 2012 4:28 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I believe you're right.
LOL. Pot, meet kettle.

We are all believers. We just believe different things.

I love, therefore I am.

OK,Shepherd Book

" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:00 PM

Time dilation is at 1 s :1.0001 s.

Humans live 30 seconds longer on Earth then they would if they were stationary relative to a fixed point in the universe, and approximately 12 seconds longer than they would on Mercury.

This does not factor into consideration the absence of oxygen or ambient temperature, and assumes an 84 year lifespan.

NIKI2

Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:27 PM

Nothing new there. The current slate of Republican candidates reflects the push to reject evoluntion on the right, with only Huntsman, again, showing the sanity of rejecting creationism, or "intelligent design" as they've so politically chosen to call it:

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The candidates on evolution:

Rick Perry has described himself as “a firm believer in intelligent design as a matter of faith and intellect” and has called evolution “a theory” with “some gaps in it.”

Mitt Romney appears to be taking a nuanced position. “I believe God is intelligent, and I believe he designed the creation,” he said. “And I believe He used the process of evolution to create the human body.”

Michele Bachmann has claimed that “hundreds and hundreds of scientists, many of them holding Nobel Prizes,” believe in intelligent design, as she does. But she said government shouldn’t take sides in scientific debates “when there is reasonable doubt on both sides.”

Ron Paul said he does not accept the theory of evolution. “The creator that I know created us, each and every one of us, and created the universe, and the precise time and manner.”

Newt Gingrich has said, “I believe that creation as an act of faith is true, and I believe that science as a mechanical process is true. … Both can be true.” He says both should be taught in schools.

Jon Huntsman is the only candidate in the GOP ranks who has taken a strong position in support of evolution.

Rick Santorum, who calls himself a fierce believer in creationism, jabbed back at Huntsman, saying, “I believe in Genesis 1:1 – God created the heavens and the earth. I don’t know exactly how God did it or exactly how long it took him, but I do know that he did it.” http://blog.chron.com/rickperry/2011/09/climate-evolution-thorny-issue
s-for-gop-hopefuls/

Sad day in America...

STORYMARK

Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:31 PM

I really try to respect the religious beliefs of others, though I am not religious by any means myself. But sometimes, it is so damned hard not to think of people who believe this stuff as just utterly deficient, mentally speaking.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

NIKI2

Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:45 PM

It used to make me shake my head, too...well, still does. But I THINK it's the same resistance to change we've seen throughout history. Change is scary, and changing beliefs wrapped in the mysticism of religion has to be doubly scary. Evolution calls into question the very idea of a god, it asks if there was ever the NEED for an omniscient being controlling all. For those who are cemented to their faith, that must be hell, and if others reject it, surely that gives the comfort of knowing one isn't alone. Just my theory.

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:18 PM

It's been 153 Earth years /636.5 Mercury years since Charles Darwin, and 3 million Earth years / 12.5 million Mercury years since Lucy lived.

I suppose if the faithful don't believe in evolution by now, they never will.

MAGONSDAUGHTER

Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:34 PM

I don't see why evolution is such a controversy in the US. I had a religious upbringing and was still taught evolution. Is it not possible to believe in a God and understand and accept the theory of evolution?