Bush Cancels Travel Plans to Avoid Arrest for Torture
POSTED BY: Kwicko
UPDATED: Thursday, December 22, 2011 01:28
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Left-wing groups have also called for a protest on the day of his visit
And yet Iran's President is invited to speak at an American university, is greeted with open arms, even as he denounces the existence of gays in his country.
I find it humorous that you compare Iran's president to Bush.
However, I seem to remember quite a few protests when Iran's president came here. Maybe they didn't show those on FauxNews, so you might have missed them.
I'm curious, though - if Iran is indeed guilty of much worse human rights violations, as you claim, then why wasn't Ahmedinejad arrested upon his arrival in the U.S.? After all, it was during Bush's time in office. Are you saying that by Bush letting him get away with this stuff he's an accomplice in Iran's human rights violations? If one's guilty, so is the other - isn't that what you said?
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
capitalism does = freedom. No conflation going on here, in the least.
Every capitalist nation is free?
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Are either the Swiss or the Iranians here representing "The left" ?!?!?Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
Every capitalist nation is free?
And socialist ones are 99% off!
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Are either the Swiss or the Iranians here representing "The left" ?!?!?
Apparently in RappyLand™, the Swiss ARE "the Left". I'm not sure where the Iranians fit into this story, but Rap seems to think that their president is replacing Bush at the charity gala.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Every capitalist nation is free?
And socialist ones are 99% off!
Don't forget: Free Tibet! (While supplies last)
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
"Human rights groups said they had intended to submit a 2,500-page case against him in the Swiss city tomorrow for alleged mistreatment of suspected militants at Guantanamo Bay."
Hello,
Perhaps President Obama will face similar troubles once he is no longer protected by head-of-state status.
A continuation of indefinite detention and a failure to pursue torturers makes him an accomplice to human rights violations.
So he, too, may be unable to visit other countries once he retires from office.
Good.
You nailed it dead on, Anthony.
And that's exactly the point - if it's a crime for Bush to do it, it's a crime for Obama to continue doing it.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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Agreed with both of y'all.
I always went with "Free Tibet with every purchase" but I guess that works. Actually, It always sounded kinda like a casino scam to me.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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Well, that explains your confusion then.
Actually, it explains yours.
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Apparently in RappyLand™, the Swiss ARE "the Left". I'm not sure where the Iranians fit into this story, but Rap seems to think that their president is replacing Bush at the charity gala.
No, but "the Left " goes out of its way to harass and accuse the defenders of freedom, while ignoring the real tyrants of the world.
"The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." - Albert Einstein
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No, but "the Left " goes out of its way to harass and accuse the defenders of freedom, while ignoring the real tyrants of the world.
Rap, that may be true, but in this case, Bush *is* a tyrant, as is his double, Obama. They are not defenders of freedom. Freedom is when you're free to do stuff, like fly on an airplane, run a website, start a farm, or plan a wedding without anyone detaining you, shutting you down, destroying your property or killing you.
Tyranny is when you have your own secret police force which can cross any border, seize any person, steal their belongings, forcibly move them wherever they want, imprison them, torture them and finally kill them.
Iran is somewhere in the middle, but I know where Bush and Obama are, and also, I'm pretty sure that Switzerland is closer to freedom.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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