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Bush Cancels Travel Plans to Avoid Arrest for Torture

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Saturday, December 3, 2011 3:34 PM






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Former U.S. President George W. Bush has cancelled a visit to Switzerland over fears he could have been arrested on torture charges.
Mr Bush was due to be the keynote speaker at a Jewish charity gala in Geneva on February 12.
But pressure has been building on the Swiss government to arrest him and open a criminal investigation if he enters the country.
Criminal complaints against Mr Bush alleging torture have been lodged in Geneva, court officials said.
Human rights groups said they had intended to submit a 2,500-page case against him in the Swiss city tomorrow for alleged mistreatment of suspected militants at Guantanamo Bay.
Left-wing groups have also called for a protest on the day of his visit, leading organisers at Keren Hayesod's annual dinner to cancel Mr Bush's participation on security grounds.
The New York-based Human Rights Watch and International Federation of Human Rights (FIDH) said the cancellation was linked to growing moves told him accountable for the use of torture, including waterboarding.




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Saturday, December 3, 2011 3:42 PM


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Left-wing groups have also called for a protest on the day of his visit


And yet Iran's President is invited to speak at an American university, is greeted with open arms, even as he denounces the existence of gays in his country.






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Saturday, December 3, 2011 3:48 PM

Hee, hee, hee, makes me giggle. It'll be a long time before he feels comfortable going to any number of other countries. Good!


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Saturday, December 3, 2011 4:05 PM

"Human rights groups said they had intended to submit a 2,500-page case against him in the Swiss city tomorrow for alleged mistreatment of suspected militants at Guantanamo Bay."

Hello,

Perhaps President Obama will face similar troubles once he is no longer protected by head-of-state status.

A continuation of indefinite detention and a failure to pursue torturers makes him an accomplice to human rights violations.

So he, too, may be unable to visit other countries once he retires from office.

Good.

--Anthony



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Saturday, December 3, 2011 4:17 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Hello,

Perhaps President Obama will face similar troubles once he is no longer protected by head-of-state status.

A continuation of indefinite detention and a failure to pursue torturers makes him an accomplice to human rights violations.

So he, too, may be unable to visit other countries once he retires from office.

Good.





Personally, I think both are equally INNOCENT of any such absurd charges, but you do bring up a valid point. If one's guilty, so is the other, right?

Still gigglin', Niki?



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Saturday, December 3, 2011 5:19 PM

The Swiss are awesome.


Auraptor,

Technically, he *denies* the existence of gays in his country, which is a quirk, but considering his political environment it probably saves him from having to launch a purge against them. Anyway, I don't think the two are equivalent.

The more curious question is under what legal jurisdiction is he in trouble? Did we torture a Swiss citizen? Or on Swiss ground? Or was he just going to Geneva to apologize for breaking their conventions. Swiss can be picky about people obeying the local custom.


That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Saturday, December 3, 2011 5:36 PM

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The Swiss are awesome.


Auraptor,

Technically, he *denies* the existence of gays in his country, which is a quirk, but considering his political environment it probably saves him from having to launch a purge against them. Anyway, I don't think the two are equivalent.



No, they're not equivalent, but the list of human rights violations of which Iran is guilty, as well as funding and supplying terrorist groups who do murder and torture, makes this " protest " all the more disconnected w/ reality.

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The more curious question is under what legal jurisdiction is he in trouble? Did we torture a Swiss citizen? Or on Swiss ground? Or was he just going to Geneva to apologize for breaking their conventions. Swiss can be picky about people obeying the local custom.



To the Left, anyone who supports freedom, capitalism and fights tyranny IS a criminal.



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Saturday, December 3, 2011 6:37 PM

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supports freedom, capitalism and fights tyranny
You seem to have conflated capitalism and freedom. I support freedom, fight capitalism, and oppose tyranny so what does that make me?

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Saturday, December 3, 2011 6:45 PM

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supports freedom, capitalism and fights tyranny
You seem to have conflated capitalism and freedom. I support freedom, fight capitalism, and oppose tyranny so what does that make me?




capitalism does = freedom. No conflation going on here, in the least.



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Saturday, December 3, 2011 7:04 PM

Well, that explains your confusion then.

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For everyone else, when someone says "freedom" please be sure to ask: "Freedom for WHOM? And to do WHAT?"

It goes along with the same question when someone says "we" (or "people"). I always think... "What means this 'we', kimo sabe?"

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