Guess how many showed up in New York?
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UPDATED: Sunday, August 6, 2023 23:53
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Here's something else you won't hear or see, most likely. I had to look long and hard to find it, because I heard it once last night but can't find it reported anywhere on the MSM websites, but I finally found it, in an article from an ENGLISH news source:Quote:
I had wondered if I heard wrong last night, but there it is. When is the last time 32,500 people did anything that got virtually no press estimates, and what press there was, was almost all negative? What does this tell you?
NYPD estimates 32,500 protesters marched in 'day of action'. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062445/Taking-bridge-Thousand
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I can only find the report on the UK website, HuffPost, blogs and the OWS' own website, so it's yet to be confirmed. However, if you search on Google, see if you can find ANY estimate from any MSM...you might find "thousands", but no specific figures. Given the MSM is quick to report estimates of crowds at most functions (like Tea Party rallies), it's pretty noticeable that all the ones I searched made NO mention of estimates. We may see/hear those estimates today, after the fact, but I'm curious to see if we do.
In other words, don't necessarily believe what you hear/read on the MSM about us. Every major news site I checked is quick to give figures on how many were arrested, and lots of other negative news about the Day of Action, but they don't want you to know how big the movement actually IS. Or many more things about it, some of which I can't go into detail about.
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But how can that be? After all, we keep being told that the whole thing fell apart, and that the Occupy movement has no support!
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Hee, hee, hee; yeah, I heard that one last night in a clip from FauxNews. Hannity I think? Of COURSE they want you to believe it's fallen apart, just as they faked the number of people at that Tea Party rally. They OWN the Tea Party, and have used them effectively to get their people in office and write laws restricting people's rights, as well as doing everything they can to enhance the economic divide further. Gawd forbid the people themselves should stand up and say "Stop!" That can't possibly be true...
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That darn librul media!!
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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Hello,
I have not read any tally of the protester group's size beyond 'thousands.' But I'm not sure I would find any tally meaningful, anyway. I've seen such tallies manipulated by a factor of ten in the past. The point is that thousands of people (I don't care how many thousands) showed up to this thing. That means the movement resonates with a lot of Americans. Political protests are like iceburgs. Each person that shows up probably represents the opinions of many who didn't. This is true even of movements I hold strong disagreement with.
I would not compare the two ideologically, but if a couple thousand KKK members showed up to a protest, I'd take notice of that, too... because there will be thousands more who share this opinion who didn't bother to show up. It would say something important about the feelings of the population. (Nothing good in this case, but still worth noting.)
The fact that this movement (OWS) has exploded around the world indicates to me that not only many Americans, but also many Humans share these concerns. Dismissing these protesters out of hand is foolish. When a significant percentage of the populace stands up for something, it's important to take it seriously without waving a hand and saying, "Oh, they're just all foolish bums and drug addicts."
--Anthony
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Yup. It's all the liberal media's fault that we're not hearing about this stuff...you betcha!
And there's this, too:Quote:
Arrests in the Occupy movement nationally have surpassed 1,000, with 177 being charged by the NYPD this Thursday in only the first few hours.
Now New York is admitting that journalists that they credentialed are among those that were cuffed by cops. In a statement to the press released from Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s Office on Thursday, November 17, spokesperson Stu Loeser addressed the media about reports relating to the growing number of journalists who have been arrested by the NYPD during Occupy Wall Street protests, a now-international movement which began in Lower Manhattan two months to the day of Loeser’s memo.
“Like all of you, I’ve heard and read many reports of reporters who supposedly were wearing valid NYPD press credentials, yet allegedly encountered problems on the streets of New York,” writes the spokesman. Loeser goes on to direct recipients of the memo to a roster of reporters published by independent outlet The Awl that has chronicled the names and affiliations of journalists that have been arrested across the country so far, which as of this writing totals 26.
“Not being familiar with many of the media outlets for which The Awl says these reporters work, I had the list of ‘26 arrested reporters’ checked against the roster of reporters who hold valid NYPD press passes,” Loser adds. “You can imagine my surprise when we found that only five of the 26 arrested reporters actually have valid NYPD-issued press credentials.”
With that sentence alone, Loeser manages to shoot himself in the foot. Twice.
Given his statement, Bloomberg’s office has indeed confirmed that at least five members of the media that were accredited by the City’s own police force were arrested while doing their job, a job that the Police Department has acknowledged and authorized. Secondly, Loeser attempts to discredit the media while at the same time exposing that he didn’t do his homework himself.
Maybe the reason that only five of the 26 reporters had NYPD-issued credentials was because not all of those 26 arrests occurred in New York.
Loeser says he checked the list of arrested reporters, but in examining the roster of names published by the Awl, it would be hard to make sense of why someone like photojournalist Kristyna Wentz-Graff would have NYPD-issued credentials — given that her arrest occurred while covering an Occupy protest near the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, roughly 900 miles from Manhattan. The same could be said about reporter Jonathan Meador, who was apprehended by cops in Nashville, Tennessee for reporting from a Music City occupation back in October.
It also opens up, of course, the argument of how free the free press actually is.
Yesterday in New York, officers within the NYPD were filmed setting up blockades on the sidewalks of Manhattan, demanding identification from citizens to have access to public streets. As thousands rallied against corporate greed, NYPD officers were filmed ironically demanding corporate-issued building passes from New York workers so that they could have permission to walk certain routes, resulting in many protesters proclaiming that the City has been transformed into a literal Police State. Now it is clear that the right to walk the streets of New York is being eradicated by the NYPD while at the same time the First Amendment’s right to report is being completely ignored by the Police Department while they keep journalists from reporting from one of the biggest news events in the world at the moment.
"American foreign correspondents routinely put themselves in harm's way to do their jobs, in some of the most brutal dictatorships in the world. And their NYC colleagues deserve the freedom to make the same choice," Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer said in a statement earlier this month. "Zuccotti Park is not Tiananmen
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I would not compare the two ideologically, but if a couple thousand KKK members showed up to a protest, I'd take notice of that, too...
Good, because a fair number of those who did show up were Nazis and KKK members. Those two groups were some of the first to jump on board the train. Also rapists, pedophiles, thieves, druggies, homeless, the insane, and Michael Moore.
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"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I agree with Hero." Niki2, 2011.
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Ahhh, yes, Hero. I forgot about him. I often wonder if Hero, Kane and Wulf aren't alter-egoes of Raptor which he hauls out to back himself up when necessary. Geezer, not so much, in my opinion. Hero's post is precisely the kind of rhetoric which makes any form of communication totally impossible. The idea that OWS is made up of the KKK, Nazis and all the other pejoratives he lists is patently absurd; that some 35,000 people in New York alone and thousands around the nation would all be those things...where do you go from there??? Nowhere, and it makes having any discussion with him or them imppossible, sadly.
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"Good, because a fair number of those who did show up were Nazis and KKK members. Those two groups were some of the first to jump on board the train."
Hello,
These groups were also some of the first groups to support Ron Paul and the Tea Party. Ron Paul had to spend no small effort distancing himself from these unhelpful supporters. They were not and are not representative of either movement.
But you already know this.
I'm not sure what the purpose of this comment was other than poking at the opposition. It does nothing to increase illumination or to approach the truth.
--Anthony
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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner
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I was just thinking about 'Hero' the other day. If he really is in Ohio as he claims to be, then the overwhelming Ohio vote to repeal the anti-union law, Kasich's approval rating (OH-Kasich Approval: 36% Approve, 52% Disapprove (Quinnipiac 10/17-23) and voting across the country, should have him concerned for his job.
No wonder he's taken a lesson from little Rappy's playbook of smearing those he disagrees with, relying on non-facts, and attacking rather than discussing. He's desperate.
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