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Howard Stern interviews the OWS gang....

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Tuesday, October 18, 2011 6:38 PM


Sums it up, pretty well.

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" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:46 PM

LOL, I gotta hand it to Howard, he's still frikkin' hilarious.

Look dude, ANY movement is gonna have its thirds (one third that get it, one third that kinda, and one third along for the ride). He interviewed the last third for the funny.
Like when he interviewed Iraq War supporters, they were all "Because Saddam blew up the Trade Center & has nuclear weapons pointed at us..."
He squeezes the jokes out of any group mentality.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:51 PM


Chris, even the so called 'leaders' of this movement have no gorram clue why they're protesting. They're having to 'make up' a list of issues, as they go along. Hell, in some areas, they've stopped even trying to formulate any list, because there's no consensus of why they hell they're even there.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Chris, even the so called 'leaders' of this movement have no gorram clue why they're protesting. They're having to 'make up' a list of issues, as they go along.

Is "Makin' it up as you go" so bad?
Better than "Followin' blindly as you stop" IMO.

So, expressing a negative opinion of a situation is negated by the inability to offer a detailed plan for correction of said situation?
Does that negate the actual situation itself?
How do you effect change by being a happy cog losing ground?

And more importantly, what is the meaning of life?
To get ahead of others? To look out for 'number one'(not the Star Trek kind)? What is family, if not a microcosm of community, and, by extension, the world?

*fell off soapbox*

That it.



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Tuesday, October 18, 2011 10:20 PM

For Chrissy -


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SACRAMENTO (CBS13) — Hundreds of protesters gathered in Cesar Chavez Park on Thursday to stand in solidarity with the growing nationwide demonstrations aimed at corporate greed, but some members of the peaceful event showed hostility to media members over basic questions about the goals of the protest.

Organizer Anthony Bondi said he has what he referred to as a “message team” working on the primary goals of the local protests, which he admitted “was kind of vague.”

“That message team will reveal that tomorrow [Friday] morning,” Bondi said.

“So you guys are in the process of forming the reasons why you are here?” asked CBS13 reporter Tony Lopez.

“Exactly correct,” Bondi said.

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/10/07/some-%E2%80%98occupy-sacrame
nto%E2%80%99-protesters-lash-out-at-questions
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Just making it up, as I go along, huh?




Just as the Howard Stern interview of the OWS kids showed, they're not even sure WHY they're there, what they want, except maybe to find some tail ( assuming they have a tent )




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
maybe to find some tail ( assuming they have a tent )

That part had me laffing so hard there were tears.

But to the point- that still doesn't NEGATE the situation being PROTESTED.
How can you not get that? They play with the world economy like it's a board game. Thew WANT hard times so deregulation & loopholes can make them more money. They will end up making it a reality with 'rating' currency & stocks.
AU, what WORLD do you live in? OURS? Do you have some special power of immunity to the inherent inequities of this financial crisis? An inheritance or something?



The laughing Chrisisall

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Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:09 PM


I don't covet my neighbor's ass.

Seems you think I should ?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I don't covet my neighbor's ass.

Seems you think I should ?


Get your OWN donkey to ride.*




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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I don't covet my neighbor's ass.

Seems you think I should ?


Get your OWN donkey to ride.*


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But that IS the point. Stop worrying about what others have, look after your own damn self.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
But that IS the point. Stop worrying about what others have, look after your own damn self.

And, conversely, stop worrying about what others don't have, eh?
We are islands, right? Objects in space? We don't mean what you think. Hump 'em.

Ooooookaaaaay.


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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:41 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

But that IS the point. Stop worrying about what others have, look after your own damn self.



The problem is how those other get what they have.



"It's wrong," the sign said, "to create a mortgage-backed security filled with loans you know are going to fail so that you can sell it to a client who isn't aware that you sabotaged it by intentionally picking the misleadingly rated loans most likely to be defaulted upon."

When others abuse the system and then break that system it hurts everyone. The protests are about greed, pure and simple.

http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2011/10/18/pm-from-blog
-post-to-protest-sign-on-occupy-wall-street
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I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:38 AM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
When others abuse the system and then break that system it hurts everyone. The protests are about greed, pure and simple.

Ummm...m52, greed is good. Greed fuels the system. Greed feeds us. Greed is American.

Or, so I conjure is AU's take on it.


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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:48 AM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

But that IS the point. Stop worrying about what others have, look after your own damn self.



The problem is how those other get what they have.



Yeah, a real tale of woe. And while due anger is directed to those who played that game, the real anger should be directed at those in D.C., who allowed, hell, all but forced it to happen.

And let's not forget those who were stupid enough to take on mortgages which they HAD to know were well beyond their means. Those who took out loans ( for homes or education ) which were too much for them to handle, and yet they did it anyways. They had better options, yet they chose the 'easy' solution. And it bit them, in the end. Why should the rest of us be stuck picking up the bill of those who made bad choices ?



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by m52nickerson:
When others abuse the system and then break that system it hurts everyone. The protests are about greed, pure and simple.

Ummm...m52, greed is good. Greed fuels the system. Greed feeds us. Greed is American.

Or, so I conjure is AU's take on it.





Define 'Greed' , please.

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:47 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Define 'Greed' , please.



greed (grd)
n.
An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth: "Many . . . attach to competition the stigma of selfish greed"

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:10 PM

People still actually listen to Howard Stern??

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:15 PM

Isn't the whole Occupy movement really Howard Beale leaning out his window and shouting, "I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!" 35 years later, without quite understanding exactly WHAT they're mad about, or exactly WHO they're mad at?
First step is realizing you're mad, and accepting it. Then you figure out who and why. Then you do something about it. It's early days yet.

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:16 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Yeah, a real tale of woe. And while due anger is directed to those who played that game, the real anger should be directed at those in D.C., who allowed, hell, all but forced it to happen.



DC did not force it to happen. They did however allow it with the repeal of Glass-Steagle act and other banking regulations, you know the GOP mantra of de-regulation.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:And let's not forget those who were stupid enough to take on mortgages which they HAD to know were well beyond their means. Those who took out loans ( for homes or education ) which were too much for them to handle, and yet they did it anyways. They had better options, yet they chose the 'easy' solution. And it bit them, in the end. Why should the rest of us be stuck picking up the bill of those who made bad choices ?


You mean the ones that were told they would be able to refinance into a fixed rate mortgage before the rates change. You know the people that where lied to just to get loans out the door so they could be sold.

Oh, and we have no choice but to clean up the mess investors left us. It is not going to just go away.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:04 PM

Talk about stuck in a mantra... You overlook the GOP trying to reign in, regulate Fannie & Freddie , as the dems fought and fussed, at every step.


And the ignorance of your sig shows your love for a totalitarian govt.

You'd target The People with a gun scope, & refer to the as " vermin ". Not remotely what The Founders fought for, was it?



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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:24 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:


Define 'Greed' , please.



greed (grd)
n.
An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth: "Many . . . attach to competition the stigma of selfish greed"



Thanks, Webster. Now, who gets to determine what one needs or deserves?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:27 PM

Why is anyone responding to Raptor? Re-read his comments; see if you find ANYTHING of any substance which needs responding to.

It's been explained that Howard Stern chose those he interviewed so he could get the craziest out there in order to go for the laughs.

It's been explained that the 99%ers are still in the process of forming precisely how they wish to proceed; their grievances are valid, but unlike the Tea Party (which was molded by others into what they were demanding), the 99% movement is grassroots, so needs to come to a consensus.

Neither will ever make any impact on him, nor will anything ELSE. So...?


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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:46 PM

Keep sticking up for your corporate masters, Rappy boy.



"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 6:58 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
Why is anyone responding to Raptor?


Yeah, it's like talkin' to Jayne when he's drunk.
I give up.
Again.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:04 PM

There's still a bit o' fun to be had in poking the monkey with a stick.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:18 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Keep sticking up for your corporate masters, Rappy boy.



Keep playing your part of useful idiot, comrade storybook.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:21 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2: Why is anyone responding to Raptor?


Why do you even care ?

You've put me on double secret silent treatment, I don't know how many times, and yet you keep on referencing me, and commenting on what I post.

Seriously woman, if you SAY STOP, MEAN STOP




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 7:26 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
There's still a bit o' fun to be had in poking the monkey with a stick.







The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:57 PM

To the liberals here...

Do you really think this "movement" will last?

I mean, look past how much the news is masturbating to it...

Does it really have a chance of doing.. well.. anything?

The Tea Party has helped elect politicians, made a positive impact on culture and government...

this cluster-fuck you are so excited about... what has it done but make everyone laugh?

I say LET OWS continue. Its perfect. They are exactly what is wrong with America.

Btw... they got cleared out a few days ago, so people with jobs could come in and clean up their feces and mess... (can't say that about the Tea party).

Really, keep them around as a message. "Is THIS what you want to be?"



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"


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Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:08 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
To the liberals here...

The Tea Party has helped elect politicians, made a positive impact on culture and government...

this cluster-fuck you are so excited about... what has it done but make everyone laugh?




I'm not a Liberal, but, ummm...

Double Dumass on YOU, I believe would be the correct response.



The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:14 AM

It ain't so mysterious, folks...



HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:19 AM

Thanks HK. Excellent.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:40 AM

Grayson is a verifiable nutjob, and that's not even debatable.

That anyone should be in jail, or at least be investigated, is another matter.

Newt did bring up Bernake's role in all this, as well as Barney Frank and Chris Dodd.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:


The Tea Party has helped elect politicians, made a positive impact on culture and government...



What positive impact? Where are the jobs?



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Btw... they got cleared out a few days ago, so people with jobs could come in and clean up their feces and mess... (can't say that about the Tea party).




So you're saying OWS should be referred to as "job creators", right?

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:59 AM

In 2008 Obama got a lot more Wall Street cash than McCain did. Three years of Obama's bashing of Wall Street, and now more money is going to Republicans. That's really why Obama and his leftists and union stooges are all perturbed, and that's why George Soros' money is bankrolling those that want to destroy capitalism.











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Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw: and that's why George Soros' money is bankrolling those that want to destroy capitalism.


Someone has been listening to Glen Beck!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:48 PM

God I love Alan Grayson! He says it like it IS, straight out, and is articulate (as opposed to the candidates on the right).

Tell me righties, were any of those facts wrong? Sure, you hate any liberal, ANY liberal (which of course means you hate Jesus), no matter what they do or say, but by gawd, if someone in the Tea Party had said PRECISELY the same thing, you'd be cheering right along with them.

Just discovered it's even EASIER to ignore Wulf...I can't recall the last time he made a valid comment on anything. Difference is, I think it's just possible he actually BELIEVES what he says, given all his love of fantasy, movies, etc., whereas Raptor is just here to get attention.

The 99%ers don't need a leader yet. Once there is enough grassroots support, it'll be time to set something up, and I just ADORE how they like to compare them to the Tea Party, which has had how long to be politically active? And what have they done, aside from pssing laws to make abortion more difficult, kill unions, put MORE people out of work, keep the rich from making any "sacrifice" like we're all supposed to be doing, and essentially stall ANYTHING that might help from the government.

They've had quite long enough now to ask the question: WHERE ARE THE JOBS?

Having fun making signs:

Keep families in their homes
Living wages are a family value
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one

...and the response we're getting is absolutely amazing. The honking, thumbs up, waving, V sign, is happening more and more. Thus far, after two Saturday demonstrations and three days demonstrating at the freeway exit to San Rafael, I've seen only two fingers and one thumbs down. I guess we're not quite the tiny minority the right is desperate to make us out to be...


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Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
To the liberals here...

Do you really think this "movement" will last?

I mean, look past how much the news is masturbating to it...

Does it really have a chance of doing.. well.. anything?

The Tea Party has helped elect politicians, made a positive impact on culture and government...

this cluster-fuck you are so excited about... what has it done but make everyone laugh?





Still wondering... What was it the tea-baggers think they accomplished?

And when?

They CLAIM to have started before Obama came into office (so that means they so AREN'T just a bunch of racist right-wing gun-toting racist assholes, much to Wulf's disappointment), but they didn't have any impact or effect until the 2010 election, so really, what impact did they have in the years before that election?

Odd that Wulfie won't give the Occupy folks a month to make a difference, but is happy his nut-gargling tea-baggers had an impact in only three short years.


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I say LET OWS continue. Its perfect. They are exactly what is wrong with America.



I know - it's so wrong to actually USE those civil rights and constitutional liberties, isn't it? It must just make your blood boil to see them out there, speaking and peaceably assembling and all.

I bet your head would really explode if they started openly carrying firearms!

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Btw... they got cleared out a few days ago, so people with jobs could come in and clean up their feces and mess... (can't say that about the Tea party).



You're right - you certainly can't say anyone ever cleaned up the feces and mess that is the Tea Party.


"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw: and that's why George Soros' money is bankrolling those that want to destroy capitalism.


Someone has been listening to Glen Beck!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.




Jongsie is one of Beck's three remaining listeners, then.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, October 21, 2011 1:47 PM

This is the occupy crowd -




Much like Hitler used the Jews as scapegoats for the problems of the German people, this current group of thugs is promoting the exact same message.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, October 21, 2011 2:34 PM


Hello,

Meanwhile, no racists or anti-semites exist in any other political groups. Most particularly not in the Tea Party, which carefully screens its membership from such persons.

--Anthony


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Friday, October 21, 2011 3:30 PM

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made a positive impact on culture and government
What I would like to know is WHAT "positive impact" the Tea Party has had on culture and government? They've stalled government so that we lost our credit rating, promoted an agenda that has cost Americans MANY more jobs than were already lost, stripped working people of their union rights, made the country more divisive than ever, put women through all kinds of invasive processes which, face it, MEN wouldn't tolerate for a second, played fast and loose with the voting rights of American citizens, passed numerous untenable laws in various states, cut so much that cities/counties/states are having to do without firemen, police, teachers, etc., through their intolerance promoted anti-Muslim prejudice around the country and denied Muslims their right to religious freedom, furthered an unimaginable wealth gap between rich and poor like this country has never seen--all that is just a taste--while their one agenda seems to be steadfastly protected the wealthiest among us and corporations from having to pay a PENNY more in taxes, instead limiting "shared sacrifice" to middle and poor classes.

Oh, and fighting regulations which protect citizens, hold 9/11 responders and disaster victims hostage to get what they want, too. There's more, but that's all that comes to mind in a couple of minutes. Yup, they've definitely changed our culture and government...but in any POSITIVE ways? I don't think so.

Hee, hee, hee; trust Raptor to bring the first Godwin to the discussion.


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Friday, October 21, 2011 6:09 PM


I'd fucking VOTE for Grayson.

Take THAT, as you will.

-F

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Friday, October 21, 2011 8:14 PM

Oh lord, me TOO! To have someone who doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks but is gonna put it out there flatly, what a dream...

Floridians got manipulated.


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Friday, October 21, 2011 8:38 PM

Grayson/Weiner or Grayson/Feingold would be a dream ticket to me and one I'd throw all my support behind. We need men like them leading this country because then things might actually get done instead of just a bunch of childish whining and bickering. They'd actually be like, "No no no, you shut the fuck up now. Ah ah! No, mouth closed now." and make things happen.

Socialist and unashamed about it.

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Friday, October 21, 2011 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

I'd fucking VOTE for Grayson.

Take THAT, as you will.

-F



Bat shit crazy would vote for bat shit crazy.

Duh.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, October 21, 2011 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Hello,

Meanwhile, no racists or anti-semites exist in any other political groups. Most particularly not in the Tea Party, which carefully screens its membership from such persons.

--Anthony




Your attempted deflection and denial is nothing short of sad.

Fucking sad.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, October 21, 2011 11:18 PM


Actually my preferred ticket would be Alan Grayson/Ron Paul.

Which I suppose makes both sides look at me like I've lost my mind, but the very act of doing so proves to me that those 'sides' have lost all sanity in their partisanship.

-F

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Friday, October 21, 2011 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Bat shit crazy would vote for bat shit crazy.



You just broke down why the Teabaggers vote for the GOP!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Friday, October 21, 2011 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Bat shit crazy would vote for bat shit crazy.



You just broke down why the Teabaggers vote for the GOP!



Yeah, in your world, hard working, honest, main stream Americans who love freedom = 'crazy '.

Count how many US flags are proudly being waved at TEA Party rallies, and how many US flags are being walked on, burned or shit on, at the Occupier's make shift ghettos. It's comical that you try to elevate true patriots on the Right, over the deluded , useful idiots on the Left.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, October 21, 2011 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's comical that you try to elevate true patriots on the Right, over the deluded , useful idiots on the Left.



No this line is comical, along with saying "mainstream Americans. It is fucking astounding that how much you don't understand what this country is about.

Oh, and rather have people spit on or burn the flag in protest then wrap themselves in it for there own personal agenda. At least the first on is honest.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Saturday, October 22, 2011 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:

Oh, and rather have people spit on or burn the flag in protest then wrap themselves in it for there own personal agenda. At least the first on is honest.



Of course you would. You honestly hate this country, and I don't.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Saturday, October 22, 2011 3:01 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Of course you would. You honestly hate this country, and I don't.



No you fuckwit, you would understand if you any type of reading comprehension at all. I love this country for what it stands for. You the your polished and perfected idea of what this country is. That is why you call some people "mainstream Americans" like a persons beliefs have anything to do with how much of an "American" they are. That makes you a fucking idiot. The whole point of this country is not some homogenous ideological philosophy but the fact they we are all different in our thinking. That is the United States of America, your ideals, my ideals and every-other Americans'.

So quit wrapping yourself in the good damn flag because at some point you are going to suffocate in it.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:06 PM

Curiously, I find the interviews to be much like rappy's typical posts here. rappy is probably the worst representative of his ideas (whatever they are, it's hard to tell) because he can't even explain what he means. Try to get into any extended discussion with him, and once he runs out of sound-bites (and that's pretty quickly!) he bails out of the thread.

The irony is especially juicy because rappy himself pointed out some ppl's stupidity, and yet is a prime example.

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Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:24 PM

"Count how many US flags are proudly being waved at TEA Party rallies, and how many US flags are being walked on, burned or shit on, at the Occupier's make shift ghettos. It's comical that you try to elevate true patriots on the Right, over the deluded , useful idiots on the Left."

Hello,

This is the thinking that allows people to honor the flag while stepping on the country.

I much prefer that people step on the flag and honor the country.

--Anthony

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Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:25 PM

Hear, hear Anthony!

It's such a joke to see you guys responding to Raptor like he's writing ANYTHING sensible or sane. Hope you're enjoying yourselves. I can think of about a dozen things we could debate or discuss without driving off the road to reply to him, which is a total waste of time. Once again, by distracting you guys, he's winning the actual game he plays.

All I would have to say in response to his idiocy of painting the Tea Partiers as "mainstream" and the 99%ers as "bums" is put forth quite eloquently in an article from Yale Law School:

Quote:

Whatever else it accomplishes, Occupy Wall Street is revealing distortions in our current understanding of the First Amendment. In recent decisions, the Supreme Court has protected Wall Street's constitutional right to pour millions into political campaigns. But as presently construed, the First Amendment isn't an obstacle when it comes to silencing the Occupiers.

The demonstrators were almost evicted from Zuccotti Park last Friday; but were saved, paradoxically, by Zuccotti's status as a private enclave reserved for public use by zoning laws. In contrast, New York City imposes a flat ban on sleeping in its public parks.

Worse yet, the Supreme Court upheld such a prohibition in 1984, finding that the government's interest in cleaning up the parks trumped protesters' rights to freedom of expression. The case involved an overnight demonstration against the treatment of the homeless population during the winter. It provoked an eloquent dissent by Justice Thurgood Marshall. He emphasized that the protesters' willingness to endure harsh conditions was central to their message, and that it was possible for the city to clean up its park without suppressing their efforts to advance their vision of a more humane America.

Marshall was right in 1984. People must be allowed to lay down their bodies, not only their wallets, to advocate deepest beliefs. Perhaps the Court, applying more recent decisions that have protected flag burning as speech, will provide the Occupiers with the First Amendment protections that it lavishes on Wall Street's political interventions. But until that happens, it's up to ordinary Americans to protect the First Amendment, and insist that our politicians pay heed even if the courts do not.

For centuries, citizens have marched on our streets and assembled in our parks to speak their minds. As the current demonstrators have established, these face-to-face encounters have a special power to command attention and provoke public debate. By enduring significant sacrifice for their commitments, they call upon the rest of us to reflect more deeply on the future of our country. As Thurgood Marshall saw, it was this spirit of self-sacrifice that made the sit-ins of the civil rights era such significant acts of political expression. It is up to Americans once again to insist that this spirit deserves support, not disparagement.. The increasing number of arrests is especially disturbing. Unless they are strictly limited to clear cases of criminality, they have a chilling effect on citizens who might otherwise join the protest.

Instead of hiding behind obsolete court decisions, big city mayors must recognize that they are on the constitutional front-line. Michael Bloomberg is failing this test when he keeps Occupiers out of New York's public parks and tolerates the arrests of dozens of protesters, providing an example for similar actions in Boston, Denver, and San Diego. In contrast, Antonio Villaraigoso is showing that leadership on behalf of the First Amendment is well within the realm of the politically possible. Los Angeles has not only avoided arrests, but seems to be expanding available public space as the protest swells. Similarly, the U.S. Parks police are on the right track in giving the demonstrators a four month extension on Freedom Plaza.

Over the next few weeks, Americans will be making

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Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

This is the thinking that allows people to honor the flag while stepping on the country.

I much prefer that people step on the flag and honor the country.

--Anthony




Meaningless words if you can't / won't show how the TEA party patriots are , in anyway , stepping on the flag. Merely transposing a few words in a sentence and thinking you've made some deep, wise commentary is only fooling yourself, and those useful idiots hapless enough to buy what you're pushin'.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Of course you would. You honestly hate this country, and I don't.



No you fuckwit, you would understand if you any type of reading comprehension at all.



Now that's just funny. I don't care who ya are.

Quote:

I love this country for what it stands for. You the your polished and perfected idea of what this country is.


Huh?

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That is why you call some people "mainstream Americans" like a persons beliefs have anything to do with how much of an "American" they are. That makes you a fucking idiot. The whole point of this country is not some homogenous ideological philosophy but the fact they we are all different in our thinking. That is the United States of America, your ideals, my ideals and every-other Americans'.

So quit wrapping yourself in the good damn flag because at some point you are going to suffocate in it.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.



Maybe if you knew the history of this country, you'd appreciate it more.

Maybe.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:59 PM

This is remarkable - I wasn't even aware that Howard Stern was still alive, much less still on the air!

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Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:02 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Maybe if you knew the history of this country, you'd appreciate it more.



I guarantee I know the history of this country far better then you do. Your the one that keeps saying that the Revolutionary War was started because of taxation. A fifth grader knows better. You keep talking about the proper role of government like that is a settled argument, yet forget the vast compromises that where made to form this country.

Most of all you forget that this country was formed on the basis of different ideals, not just conservative ones.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Sunday, October 23, 2011 2:16 PM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Maybe if you knew the history of this country, you'd appreciate it more.



I guarantee I know the history of this country far better then you do. Your the one that keeps saying that the Revolutionary War was started because of taxation. A fifth grader knows better. You keep talking about the proper role of government like that is a settled argument, yet forget the vast compromises that where made to form this country.

Most of all you forget that this country was formed on the basis of different ideals, not just conservative ones.




Funny how all the things you claim are my arguments, aren't.



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Sunday, October 23, 2011 3:11 PM

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regulate Fannie & Freddie
Well, there you go again. Why, just in the other thread you said that Fannie and Freddie were NOT the problem, that the problems were all due to "socialist over spending" or some such.

You seem to be having extraordinary difficulty keeping track of all of those random neuronal firings lately.

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Sunday, October 23, 2011 5:33 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Funny how all the things you claim are my arguments, aren't.



You don't even know your own arguments.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Monday, October 24, 2011 4:50 AM

All I know is that people in my city are starting to be annoyed at how the parks that the protestors have been camping in are mudholes now, and who's paying for it? Its become rather a messy situation, yucky mud and all, those parks can't be used for anything now until they get replanted with grass etc. Makes more sense to just protest every day instead of camping for two weeks.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, October 24, 2011 3:02 PM

Anthony, did you catch the giggle:

Quote:

Meaningless words if you can't / won't show how the TEA party patriots are , in anyway , stepping on the flag. Merely transposing a few words in a sentence and thinking you've made some deep, wise commentary is only fooling yourself, and those useful idiots hapless enough to buy what you're pushin'.
He didn't even GET it, but had a "snappy" comeback to what he THOUGHT you said! Amusing.


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Monday, October 24, 2011 7:36 PM

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
All I know is that people in my city are starting to be annoyed at how the parks that the protestors have been camping in are mudholes now, and who's paying for it? Its become rather a messy situation, yucky mud and all, those parks can't be used for anything now until they get replanted with grass etc. Makes more sense to just protest every day instead of camping for two weeks.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya



Same here , in Atlanta. The mayor's office is doing an unusually poor job of leading, by tap dancing on both sides of the fence, and the locals who live / work around the occupiers are getting fed up. Trash, police, noise, traffic, and being harassed by punks, and all for what ? No one seems to know. Although I did laugh to hear that some 'vandals' destroyed the drums that the kiddies were banging on. Atlanta does love a good street party and music festival, but these losers have over stayed their welcome.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:29 AM

"He didn't even GET it, but had a "snappy" comeback to what he THOUGHT you said! Amusing."

Hello,

He is a confused creature. I'm beginning to think there is no point in speaking to him. Not because of his arbitrary argumentative nature nor his rudeness nor wrongness, mind you. Rather, simply because he can't seem to follow a thread of thought from one post to the next. The discussion he is having is happening inside his own mind, and I cannot go there to talk to him.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:35 AM


I'm talking above your heads, I get that much. I hope that , eventually, y'all will catch up one day...

It is a dream, I have.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:30 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

I'd fucking VOTE for Grayson.

Take THAT, as you will.

-F



Bat shit crazy would vote for bat shit crazy.

Duh.




That's probably the weakest Bachmann endorsement I've seen yet.

I'm sure she's glad to have your vote, though.

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 5:56 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
The discussion he is having is happening inside his own mind, and I cannot go there to talk to him.


Fekkin hell, would you *want* to, even if you could ?

Save yourself the trouble, drop some acid and visit the local carnival, you'll have much the same experience and affect, but you'd probably enjoy it more.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

That's probably the weakest Bachmann endorsement I've seen yet.

I'm sure she's glad to have your vote, though.



She doesn't, but that's a fine example of your inability to process info.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 12:12 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/occupy_wall_street/2011/10/23/2011
-10-23_where_vagrants_excons__takers_find_a_home.html


"Nieves volunteers on Occupy Wall Street's security team, but says many new arrivals do not pull their weight.

"We have compassion toward everyone. However, we have certain rules and guidelines," said Lauren Digioia, 26, a member of the sanitation committee.

"If you're going to come here and get our food, bedding and clothing, have books and medical supplies for no charge, they need to give back," Digioia said. "There's a lot of takers here and they feel entitled."

TOO FUNNY!



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"


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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:24 PM

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I'm beginning to think there is no point in speaking to him.
Yay Anthony! Now, if we could just convince the others who take his bait, maybe we'd get somewhere.

In my opinion it's not that he can't track, but that he's deliberately NOT doing so. I don't think he gives a shit what the discussion is or the issue, he's just sitting there thinking "what absurd thing can I post now that will get their goat?" And it works. He's winning every time, because people DO engage him, and he threadjacks so many of them into ignoring the actual substance of the discussion...I imagine him sitting in his dark corner snickering his head off.


If everyond cound just get that, we could move past him. Hey, I can dream...


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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 4:58 PM

Liberal 1: I believe that XYZ is true, and you should agree with me or you are a bad person.

Everyonelse 1: "I disagree."

Liberal 1: "OMG!! YOUR HAVE NOTHING OF VALUE TO SAY! WHAAARRBBAAGAAARRBBLLLLE!!!"


That about cover it?

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"


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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 5:00 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:

He's winning every time






" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:26 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Liberal 1: I believe that XYZ is true, and you should agree with me or you are a bad person.

Everyonelse 1: "I disagree."

Liberal 1: "OMG!! YOUR HAVE NOTHING OF VALUE TO SAY! WHAAARRBBAAGAAARRBBLLLLE!!!"



More like

Liberal: I believe X because the facts support it.

Conservative: No that is a lie!

Liberal: Which part, the facts or the conclusion?

Conservative: Stop trying to confuse things, your wrong, you hate this country...USA, USA, USA....

Liberal: What?

Conservative: Shut-up and listen you stupid socialist/commie/nazi.

Liberal: Do you even know what those words mean?

Conservative: They mean you hate this country, USA, USA, USA...

Liberal: All you are doing is shooting off at the mouth. You’re not making any sense.

Conservative: NO! I won't let you take my guns away!

Liberal: WTF are you talking about.

Conservative: You pinko-commies want to take my guns, you can have them when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.

Liberal: When did we start talking about guns?

Conservative: USA, USA, USA....you said shooting... USA, USA....

Liberal: Well maybe if you stopped chanting you would hear what I'm saying.

Conservative: Now you want to take away my rights to free speech, never you socialist!

Liberal: Your an idiot.

Conservative: See that, all you liberals are the same; you can't have a decent conversation with liberals they just resort to name calling....USA, USA, USA......


I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:39 PM

I stopped reading when you said Liberals support X because of the facts.

Liberals support X because they think it's the right thing to do, screw the facts.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:44 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I stopped reading when you said Liberals support X because of the facts.

Liberals support X because they think it's the right thing to do, screw the facts.



This from a man that does not know what a fact is.

Of course you probably would screw a fact if you ever met one. I bet you would let the fact be on top since you screw up so much.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:51 PM


Sorry, but you really sound bitter.

Hope it all works out, what ever it is.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:54 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Sorry, but you really sound bitter.

Hope it all works out, what ever it is.



Not bitter at all, sorry your wrong again. I was typing that with a smile on my face. Much like the smile of a child watching a fool.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:00 PM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Sorry, but you really sound bitter.

Hope it all works out, what ever it is.



Not bitter at all, sorry your wrong again. I was typing that with a smile on my face. Much like the smile of a child watching a fool.



So insulting others brings a smile to your face, huh?

Interesting.

A child smiling at a fool ? Huh. Odd analogy. I guess , as a child, you have a chance to grow and learn, still.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:06 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

So insulting others brings a smile to your face, huh?

Interesting.

A child smiling at a fool ? Huh. Odd analogy. I guess , as a child, you have a chance to grow and learn, still.



That is a little bit better, at least now you are trying...failing still, but trying.

Like a child. You seem to miss important words sometimes.

I only smile when I insult someone that is an idiot. At a certain point is it not worth arguing with a person like that.

Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

So it is better just to mock them.


I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:14 PM

Watching you try to navigate yourself through this 1 man stage show of nonsensical insults ... kinda interesting.

Quote:

Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

So it is better just to mock them. -m52nickerson




What exactly is your motivation here? What's your point ?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:17 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Watching you try to navigate yourself through this 1 man stage show of nonsensical insults ... kinda interesting.

What exactly is your motivation here? What's your point ?



To mock and idiot. Did I really have to spell that out for you....apparently I did.

If you would like I could explain each insult after I make it....that would be quit funny as well.


I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:24 PM

Still can't answer the question, huh?

Quote:

To mock AND idiot?


Meh, oh well.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:38 PM

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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
More like

Liberal: I believe X because the facts support it.

Conservative: No that is a lie!

Liberal: Which part, the facts or the conclusion?

Conservative: Stop trying to confuse things, your wrong, you hate this country...USA, USA, USA....

Liberal: What?

Conservative: Shut-up and listen you stupid socialist/commie/nazi.

Liberal: Do you even know what those words mean?

Conservative: They mean you hate this country, USA, USA, USA...

Liberal: All you are doing is shooting off at the mouth. You’re not making any sense.

Conservative: NO! I won't let you take my guns away!

Liberal: WTF are you talking about.

Conservative: You pinko-commies want to take my guns, you can have them when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.

Liberal: When did we start talking about guns?

Conservative: USA, USA, USA....you said shooting... USA, USA....

Liberal: Well maybe if you stopped chanting you would hear what I'm saying.

Conservative: Now you want to take away my rights to free speech, never you socialist!

Liberal: Your an idiot.

Conservative: See that, all you liberals are the same; you can't have a decent conversation with liberals they just resort to name calling....USA, USA, USA......


Shit, you could paste that to damn never every thread here these berks present their "arguments" in and make exactly zero difference.

I share the opinion of Viktor Vasko towards their so-called arguments.
Quote:

AURGH! alvays they are crying in my ear!
And YOU!
NOISE, NOISE!
It makes never any sense vhat you are saying!



-Frem
Okay, I gotta post the link to that, it's sooooo similar to me and Justin it's damn funny...
http://lackadaisycats.com/exhibit.php?exhibitid=92

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:07 PM

WHHHHARBBBLLLLLLLLLLLEGARRRRBBBBBBBBBLLLLEEEEE!


Everyonelse1: Wow...

"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"


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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Still can't answer the question, huh?

Quote:

To mock AND idiot?


Meh, oh well.



Weren't you the one bitching about people pointing out typos in one thread. Keep that hypocrisy alive man!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:03 AM

You're avoiding the question. Still.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:08 AM

This question?

Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

What exactly is your motivation here? What's your point ?




I answered it! My motivation is to mock you since there is no point in arguing with you. Arguing with the likes of you is like arguing with a book, no matter what you say the book always says the same things.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:27 AM


Naww.. still not getting it. You need to think beyond the surface. What's driving your nonsensical, juvenile little rants?

Think , before you answer.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 5:01 AM

Raptor and Nikc are both being rediculously petty and Nick has this dirty habbit of being incredibly snobbish, reference the stupid Limerick thread. Although there quality improved substantially when he stopped trying to rhyme words with Raptor, it took him long enough to figure that out though. But once that happened he actually wrote several that made sense as a Limerick should. Raptor doesn't make it any better though because he seems to have a habbit of playing dumb, thus enticing Nick et al to go 'round and 'round in squircles with him.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Naww.. still not getting it. You need to think beyond the surface. What's driving your nonsensical, juvenile little rants?

Think , before you answer.



Sorry you don't like the truth of the matter. There is little sense in arguing with you. So I will just have fun mocking you.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Raptor doesn't make it any better though because he seems to have a habbit of playing dumb, thus enticing Nick et al to go 'round and 'round in squircles with him.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya



Well, I agree that it's become beyond tedious. But the point I'm trying to make, and which nickerson is too obtuse to figure out, is the question of WHY he's being such a juvenile. What is driving him to mock me ( his word ) so incessantly. What does he hope to accomplish ? To show me he's right? Or some how smarter than I am, and there by proving his 'rightness' by grand fiat ? Or possibly to insult me into submission ?

I got news for you nicky. You're barkin' up the wrong tree. I'm just having fun watching it all.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:16 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I got news for you nicky. You're barkin' up the wrong tree. I'm just having fun watching it all.




Then I guess we are both having fun!

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, September 20, 2023 5:40 PM

I found him more drugged out, sleazy degenerate than funny

stayed within mainstream, never offended war monger bankers or the digi vote system like Rudy Giuliani, Alex Jones, Al Gore, Ron Paul, David Icke types

Didn't take much for him to go full Stalin Hitler and scream death threats to 'Remove' Anti Vaxxers

Howard Stern says Bill Maher 'ought to shut his mouth'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12538729/Howard-Stern-sa
ys-Bill-Maher-ought-shut-mouth-HBO-host-criticized-shock-jocks-air-praise-wife-Beth-Stern-think-Im-no-longer-friends-him.html


and shootings

https://twitter.com/alx/status/1704323051427402184


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