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FIREFLY COMING BACK??

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Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:52 PM

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Inara's sex poison anyone?


Technically that was Tim Minear's idea, Joss never told him what the syringe was for. All we really know is that it's not actually a suicide kit.

Also, not really Fox meddling, but more canceled before that could be revealed.

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:51 AM

I'm siding with Nick on this one. I don't trust anyone to make cannon. Fanfic sure go ahead, I can read or ignore as I see fit. But if Joss makes more Firefly I would have to concede it as cannon, no matter how crummy it may be, what with the movie, the nearly 10 year hiatus and all.

I can't fully trust anyone in the world, much someone I've never actually met in regards to my very favorite show and a notable part of my life.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, October 26, 2011 3:00 PM

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
I'm siding with Nick on this one. I don't trust anyone to make cannon. Fanfic sure go ahead, I can read or ignore as I see fit. But if Joss makes more Firefly I would have to concede it as cannon, no matter how crummy it may be, what with the movie, the nearly 10 year hiatus and all.

I can't fully trust anyone in the world, much someone I've never actually met in regards to my very favorite show and a notable part of my life.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya



I don't think you would have concede it as your personal cannon, I mean I ignore the Serenity Comics and the newest Star Trek Movie.

.....and some of Voyager....and the vast majority of Enterprise.

Your right, too much time has pasted. Firefly belongs now to the people that have kept it for that long, the Browncoats. Without anything official coming back out it allows us to make our own determinations of what happens.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:44 AM

You're rockin my world Nick!

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:17 PM

It all depends on the success of The Avengers film. If it kicks butt at the Box Office, Joss will be hot again and Fox may consider it. Of course, you may see some major tweeks to the overall demeanor of the show.

Here's hoping that The Avengers sets box office records.


SGG

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Wednesday, November 16, 2011 9:50 PM

I've learned to allow for people ignoring canon, but I don't understand why people are so dismissive of the comic books, or even the movie.

Joss worked on them, or in the later comic books directed another Whedon in work on them, that's good enough for me to consider it official.

The only thing I'm remotely concerned about in regards to Joss is that in the past he's tried to write what are in my opinion exploitative relationships as positive, but I've also seen that those relationships don't last and the exploiter eventually dies. I hold out hopes that even if another such relationship occurs in Firefly, in the long term it would break up and any characters who have lost my good opinion will be killed off. But just the fact that it might happen is not a dealbreaker for me.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
It all depends on the success of The Avengers film. If it kicks butt at the Box Office, Joss will be hot again and Fox may consider it. Of course, you may see some major tweeks to the overall demeanor of the show.

Here's hoping that The Avengers sets box office records.


SGG



I'm pessimistic about that even. I feel like if Avengers does that well then he'll be getting money thrown at him to get the sequel rolling as quickly as possible. He'll probably get big offers to do some other side projects as well.

Basically see Jon Favreau after Iron Man did so well. He was the man for a while. Then Iron Man 2 only did a little better than Iron Man. Heaven forbid!! Now he's lost the aura of perfection apparently.

I'm guessing Joss is going to follow the same path. Hopefully his "Cowboys and Aliens" will be worth it.

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Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:40 PM

They can bring back Firefly, and they can bring back Wash easy... and while they're at it they should bring back his moustache.

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Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:48 AM

I ignore the parts of the movie I don't like, namely Wash and Book dying, though I do read some post BDM fic where they are dead, its okay with me some of the time. I also ignore the incorrect and unrealistic impression that many people have about River after the movie, its silly and boring and too Mary Sue. The movie doesn't explicitly say that about her, but people misunderstand the events and I ignore their misunderstanding thereof. I ignore Mr. Universe because he's lame and never happened in the series and I didn't care at all when he died. I guess I don't really ignore the rest of the movie. I still don't prefer it though and avoid watching it. There are only a few scenes in it that I like or think are fun to watch.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Thursday, November 17, 2011 5:29 AM

Firefly coming back? Ah, a pleasant dream. But unlikely. Very. That's why I started writing fanfiction. As far as I’m concerned, the TV series is canon, the movie…mostly canon, except where it contradicts the TV series. Then (when writing fanfic in particular) I am sometimes hard pressed to reconcile the two, and when I can’t come up with a way to do that, I choose the TV series over the movie. The comic books: while certain elements of these are of interest, for the most part they are too…well, “comic bookish” for want of a better term. In part because of their heavily visual-oriented content, the depth that was conveyed in the TV series through its dialog just isn’t there. The form lends itself to sillier, over-the-top stories. Part of the ethos of the TV series was that it was about ordinary people who have to live tough lives and make tough decisions, and are day-to-day heroes because of how they confront their ordinary struggles—not superheroes battling supervillains, which is the domain of comic books. So in my fanfic I incorporate a few elements from the comic books, but I’m not ruled by them. Would a revival of the TV series satisfy me? Maybe. But it would be hard to re-construct that particular combination of actors, writers, and crew that produced the magic of Firefly. Meanwhile I enjoy reading the fanfiction, because the characters can live on vividly in so many different threads of adventure. If I become dissatisfied with any particular fanfic, there’s always another around somewhere that addresses the gaps. I think my ideal continuation of Firefly would be for Joss & co. to license the publication of all the better-written fanfics for the wider public to enjoy.

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