Five Myths About Healthy Eating
POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Monday, June 25, 2012 22:59
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
...I really need to rewatch if I'm messing up what quotes come from where.
Though the context about it being a comment to a representative of the Alliance about their job and him no longer being an Independent seems to be correct still.
They were actually trying to frame the crew of Serenity for the slaughter of the settlers, if you recall. By bringing up Mal's war record, and as a volunteer for the Independents, Harken was insinuating that Mal , out of desire for vengeance against the Alliance, was the one behind this attack.
But I digress. Yes, nothing wrong with going back and watching Firefly / Serenity over , again and again.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Well, not frame exactly, because Harken didn't believe in Reavers until he got up close and personal with one that had been turned.
Harken actually did think of Mal as guilty, he was prejudiced. Mal then proceeds to show a surprising lack of prejudice towards Harken, and even saves the man's life. Very inclusive of him, considering everything the Alliance did to him.
Mal complains about the Alliance for good reason when they can't hear him, but at the same time it doesn't stop him from thinking of them as people and trying to do right by them (even when they haven't exactly returned the favour). That's kind of why he's a hero.
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( love how this thread has gone... )
Mal's also thinking of his crew, and what it'd mean if the Alliance frames them for what the Reavers have done.
And understandable that Harken is dismissive of the Reaver story. Reavers don't leave many survivors, if they can help it. And the Alliance, well, they had a secret to keep, so the 'story' of Reavers was likely dismissed as a cover, for other nefarious activity.
At least, that's what Harken likely thought.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Maybe, but it's also suggested that this is Harken's first tour out on the Rim, and that he may actually be unaware of Reavers beyond the "urban legends" (so to speak) that people tell.
The shooting script describes Harken being attacked by the Reaver as a "trial by fire" for him, and there's also something in there about an initiation, or ritual.
What I took away from the episode was that Harken learned that Reavers really do exist. He seemed to be unaware of the cover-up in regards to Reavers, because if he was, he would have framed Mal and co rather than have it get out that Reavers might be real. Instead, he lets them go, having decided that Mal and co are innocent and not thinking of any cover up at all.
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I suspect that when Joss made Bushwhacked, he hadn't decided to do the Miranda-is-where-the-Reavers-came-from thing yet. Because the guy in the ship became a Reaver without any PAX. People don't seem to like the idea that Joss was figuring it out as he went, but that's normal for someone who is creating a story/show to do some of.
Niki, do you think peanut butter M and Ms can count as protein? Because that's what I did this week for breakfast. :P I hate being hungry all the time, I can't focus. I'll keep trying for protein in the morning but its so hard, I don't have a lot of time and I just don't like eating breakfast unless its Sat. and my dad and I go out to eat it or he makes organic eggs and stuff, mmmmmmmmmm.
When I was a little girl I was a lot like the people on those shows with Freaky Eaters (that's the American version of what Magon's mentioned.) Now I'm not like that though, I like a lot of things, though there are still some things I don't like. But not many. I'm thankful I grew out of being picky. It wasn't anything my parents did either, it was just me growing up and my tastebuds changing. My little nephew is picky and he's already starting to grow out of it, he's 8 and he eats more things as he gets older. My stepgrandma is still really picky, she's not bad enough to be on one of those shows, but she is very picky for an adult. She's pretty healthy though which is good.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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Heh, I had the opposite thing, I'd eat anything as a kid, and I still kinda eat a lot of stuff that most people wouldn't exactly consider "food."
Though again, if I was served the fatty and greasy stuff I wouldn't eat much of it.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I am consistent, you're just not paying attention.
We all start out pretty much the same, but then get programmed by all sorts of group think.
Try and keep up, k ?
You're fooling yourself matey. Didn't you say.....
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Parents have, for a large part, control over what their children watch and eat. This idea that we're all brainless programable robots, falling victim to the whims of some heartless, faceless ad agency's dark, insidious intentions, is comical rubbish.
So we are programmable or we are not programmable? We are individuals who are fully responsible for ourselves or we are subjected to group think as we grow up?
BTW Are you 13?
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Originally posted by RionaEire:
When I was a little girl I was a lot like the people on those shows with Freaky Eaters (that's the American version of what Magon's mentioned.) Now I'm not like that though, I like a lot of things, though there are still some things I don't like. But not many. I'm thankful I grew out of being picky. It wasn't anything my parents did either, it was just me growing up and my tastebuds changing. My little nephew is picky and he's already starting to grow out of it, he's 8 and he eats more things as he gets older. My stepgrandma is still really picky, she's not bad enough to be on one of those shows, but she is very picky for an adult. She's pretty healthy though which is good.
I was a picky eater as well and I grew out of it. I think that a lot of those people were really infantile, which is why they still ate like babies.
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
You're fooling yourself matey. Didn't you say....
So we are programmable or we are not programmable? We are individuals who are fully responsible for ourselves or we are subjected to group think as we grow up?
BTW Are you 13?
Yes.
And no, but I was 13, at one time. You there yet?
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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Alas, I don't have time to bring out the flamethrower and it'd be all but pointless anyways but lemme point a few damn things out to you.
Remember you're talkin to a person who's eaten tree bark in order to survive in some pretty damn extreme conditions, right ?
You think "poor" and you have no goddamn idea, none, what it's like to have to steal salt (ask Siggy why) in order to not die, when toilet paper is a fucking LUXURY you can't afford and you wind up all but praying for more junk mail, or at least that some other jackass as poor as you are hasn't made it to the newspaper machine with a slim fistfull of change before you do...
And if you're "working" poor when the hell are you going to find the goddamn TIME to price-compare, all the fuckin things you TAKE FOR GRANTED do not exist....
The bus ? shit, where you gonna get the MONEY, does the bus even GO there, will it even stop in your neighborhood instead of blowing by cause the driver gets wiggy about getting mugged three times a week, or just not come at all, with our terrible broken public transporation system and all.
So you're limited to hoofing it, and that no-fresh-produce thing... it WAS true in fuckin Detroit, just so you know - one of the things our renengade urban farmers DO is fill that gap for the local down and out, at risk of their safety and freedom often enough with the goddamn monsanto-fellating sumbitches of the local Dept of Natural Resources trashing their crops at every turn and corner.
You still ain't gonna find anything decent in the few places you CAN hoof it to, and you WILL pay three to five times as much, a gallon of milk goes up to $4.35USD in some of em, and YOU HAVE NO CHOICE - no time, no transportation, no alternatives.
And then there's getting back to your hovel *WITH* the stuff, and you damn well better have one hand free, and it not empty, or a buddy if you have any - people shop in groups, some places, when they can, cause of rush-n-snatch skells even hungier than they are, and you think THEY give a fuck about nutrition ?
Bah, lets just say someone sitting in their goddamn ivory tower whinging about how poor people should just suck it up, is prone to make the same goddamn assumptions ivory tower anarchists are about sewage and waste disposal - taking things for granted to the point where those things and how they come to be are invisible to their consciousness.
You know, stuff like cooking oil, actual cookware, heat or fire to cook with - you go down poor enough, YOU CAN NOT MAKE THESE ASSUMPTIONS.
I've been there, it ain't pretty, but you wanna *solve* the problem instead of blaming the folk your society pauperizes for the benefit of the very ivory tower folk who write this drivel...
Then you MAKE that society stop doing so.
No Matter What It Takes.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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