Shepherd the Book, & Wash
POSTED BY: BrucePluto
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Or, the Alliance ships were using laser fire rather than customary ordnance, which might cause cleaner entry and exit wounds.
And maybe Alliance ships are so used to strafe-running innocent settler villages that they have deliberately smaller anti-personnel guns they use. After all, most of the towns on the rim are corporate/working/slave labour towns, and when you clear out the last batch, you want the clean-up to be easy for the new batch. So they don't get so freaked out and revolution happy right from the start.
Good point about the bleeding out, though. I guess we don't know how long ago the town was hit. Maybe Book had a slow killing wound and was lying there for days, and finally gave up the ghost when the crew showed up.
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Quote:It is not laser fire and not small caliber. The comic is canon and shows muzzle flash from two gatling cannons. Bullets may be 30mm, slightly radioactive, depleted uranium slugs like on the A-10 Warthog and that is not science fiction.
Originally posted by Bytemite:
Or, the Alliance ships were using laser fire rather than customary ordnance, which might cause cleaner entry and exit wounds.
And maybe Alliance ships are so used to strafe-running innocent settler villages that they have deliberately smaller anti-personnel guns they use.
Which brings to my mind another sad problem with Joss's movie version of Book's death. Zach's comic version has Book heroically defending the people of Haven. Joss's Book is the last man standing in Haven and then he takes his revenge by shooting down the Alliance and then talks himself to death. Zach's Book is good. Joss' is a bad.
The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two
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Why didn't Joss wait for Serenity 2 to kill Wash and Book? Because he suspected that this would be his last Firefly on the screen and so he had to end it with a bang in his opinion. I wouldn't have minded as much if they'd all died in the end like a Shakespear tragedy with only one left to tell the story, maybe Jayne, you know, someone unexpected, but not River because who's going to look after her if everyone else is dead? But yeah, having two people die is more unfair than killing no one or killing everyone in my opinion.
I didn't like Mr. Universe, he wasn't anything special in my opinion, in fact he was kind of annoying, I think his only real purpose is to send the broadwave out.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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Originally posted by two:
It is not laser fire and not small caliber. The comic is canon and shows muzzle flash from two gatling cannons. Bullets may be 30mm, slightly radioactive, depleted uranium slugs like on the A-10 Warthog and that is not science fiction.
Your basing that on a comic book drawing that is hardly that good.
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Originally posted by twoWhich brings to my mind another sad problem with Joss's movie version of Book's death. Zach's comic version has Book heroically defending the people of Haven. Joss's Book is the last man standing in Haven and then he takes his revenge by shooting down the Alliance and then talks himself to death. Zach's Book is good. Joss' is a bad.
I did not get that last from the movie at all.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Also, many lasers are, in fact, invisible to the human eye, and a muzzle flash doesn't necessarily limit the possibilities to conventional ammunition.
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Quote:Think of Kaylee when she was shot. She didn't make small talk. But on the other hand, Book, after bleeding for who knows how long, gives Mal a homily. It would have been more shocking to Mal if Book spoke nothing and died.
Originally posted by m52nickerson:
I did not get that last from the movie at all.
Not killing Book can be more intense than killing him.
If Joss had wanted to increase the hopelessness of Serenity's situation, he could have Book on a heart pump. Book dies if he is moved from the infirmary after Serenity crashes. Simon pleads with Mal, “Give me 15 minutes, I can prepare Book for transfer!” Mal growls, “Reavers are here, Doc. You're going with us.” Simon keeps doctoring; Mal points gun at Simon and cruelly forces Simon to abandon Book.
Saintly Jayne leaves Shepherd Book with a gun. Book is alone, awake and fearful that he is lunch for Reavers. Book hesitantly puts the gun-barrel to his head. We see him slowly squeeze the trigger. In closeup, we see the hammer moving to the cocked position. We cut away to the fleeing crew then back to the gun. It has been fired and is now on the floor of the infirmary. Is that a pool of blood?
Much later, Book in a wheelchair is shown aiming the same gun at Jayne and pulling the trigger. The gun is not loaded. Jayne, who is eating noodles with chopsticks, says, “You were too moldy for the Reaver to eat.” Book laughs and clutches his chest in pain. Browncoats are angry because they were tricked into thinking Book was dead. They vow never to see Serenity 2, which was the major hit of the Summer of 2009.
The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by two:
Think of Kaylee when she was shot. She didn't make small talk. But on the other hand, Book, after bleeding for who knows how long, gives Mal a homily. It would have been more shocking to Mal if Book spoke nothing and died.
Not killing Book can be more intense than killing him.
If Joss had wanted to increase the hopelessness of Serenity's situation, he could have Book on a heart pump. Book dies if he is moved from the infirmary after Serenity crashes. Simon pleads with Mal, “Give me 15 minutes, I can prepare Book for transfer!” Mal growls, “Reavers are here, Doc. You're going with us.” Simon keeps doctoring; Mal points gun at Simon and cruelly forces Simon to abandon Book.
Saintly Jayne leaves Shepherd Book with a gun. Book is alone, awake and fearful that he is lunch for Reavers. Book hesitantly puts the gun-barrel to his head. We see him slowly squeeze the trigger. In closeup, we see the hammer moving to the cocked position. We cut away to the fleeing crew then back to the gun. It has been fired and is now on the floor of the infirmary. Is that a pool of blood?
Much later, Book in a wheelchair is shown aiming the same gun at Jayne and pulling the trigger. The gun is not loaded. Jayne, who is eating noodles with chopsticks, says, “You were too moldy for the Reaver to eat.” Book laughs and clutches his chest in pain. Browncoats are angry because they were tricked into thinking Book was dead. They vow never to see Serenity 2, which was the major hit of the Summer of 2009.
Book however did make small talk the first time he was shot.
Yes Joss could have made it more intense in that way, but overall it would not have been so poignant.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Quote:Poignancy is a perfume distilled from crushed flowers and friends. The fragrance is too refined for me. Joss's killing everybody at Haven was very simple and tidy storytelling, but realistically somebody probably survived the massacre unless the town was nuked. Book is my choice.
Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Book however did make small talk the first time he was shot.
Yes Joss could have made it more intense in that way, but overall it would not have been so poignant.
The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by two:
Poignancy is a perfume distilled from crushed flowers and friends. The fragrance is too refined for me. Joss's killing everybody at Haven was very simple and tidy storytelling, but realistically somebody probably survived the massacre unless the town was nuked. Book is my choice.
Not for me, sometimes we must destroy that which we love.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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The movie really isn't my thing, there are a couple of good things about it, but mostly I didn't enjoy it and I can't watch it because I get too upset. The first 15 minutes I can handle but then things go downhill for various reasons.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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