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Mal4Prez nails the climate change debate...

POSTED BY: kpo
UPDATED: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 04:17
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KPO
Sunday, October 2, 2011 3:07 AM

Just part of an excellent rant in another thread that I thought deserved a thread of its own:

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2. I was just reading about Perry and his "skepticism" of climate change, which reminded me of old threads on RWED. Otherwise intelligent-seeming posters stated their belief that scientists make all this up so they can get funding.

Ok, wait... Must get this off my chest...

Scientists falsify their research for money, but Big Oil and its politician leeches (Perry) would never do such a thing?

Scientists who have tenured jobs falsify their research for money, but Big Oil, with employment and income that depends solely on profit, would never do such a thing?

Scientists who work for educational institutions falsify their research for money, but Big Oil which exists purely to make a profit would never do such a thing?

Scientists who might make 100K or so a year falsify their research for money, but Big Oil controlled by managers/stock holders with million dollar bonuses/incomes funded by company profit would never do such a thing?

Scientists who must submit their work to peer-reviewed journals falsify their research for money, but Big Oil that only needs to stand up to the rigorous standards of Faux news would never do such a thing?

BTW, which science classes did Perry take in college? How were his grades?

Talk about stupid.

I really wish Perry would hold a town hall meeting in my town, and give me the mic.




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Sunday, October 2, 2011 11:50 AM


It's been proven that there's a lot of bad science involved in the climate change scam. And the E.Anglia e-mails prove that results have been cooked, and language crafted, to slant the data towards a preconceived conclusion. Add to the fact that many ( almost all ) scientist get their funding from where ? Govt. The same govt which is promoting a particular political agenda is funding the science which, gosh almighty, just HAPPENS to agree w/ the stated agenda.

What are the odds?


The climate has never STOPPED changing on this planet. Mankind's involvement in it all, amounts to nothing.



" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:39 PM

OK, if my post starts a thread, I get to define a rule: it shall not be taken over by back and forths with he who posts the same long ago refuted shit with absolutely no supporting facts or links. You all know what I mean.

If this thread doesn't become another yawn-fest of prove-Rappy-wrong, I'll finally get down to posting pictures I took of a museum exhibit in Fairbanks, AK last summer. (It took me this long to find the cable and connect to my camera.) Very disturbing images and data - yes DATA - about changes in temperature and glacier size up there.

I'd do it now, but I'm heading out the door. Should have time this afternoon.

BTW, thank you KPO. I feel the compliment!


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Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:43 PM


What's already been decided? You're not pulling the AlGore card, and claiming that the science is settled, are you ?

ROFLMAO !!!!!


Some glaciers recede, others advance. Hardly a case being made for global warming / climate change.

But who doesn't like pretty pictures, right ?




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
OK, if my post starts a thread, I get to define a rule: it shall not be taken over by back and forths with he who posts the same long ago refuted shit with absolutely no supporting facts or links. You all know what I mean.

If this thread doesn't become another yawn-fest of prove-Rappy-wrong, I'll finally get down to posting pictures I took of a museum exhibit in Fairbanks, AK last summer. (It took me this long to find the cable and connect to my camera.) Very disturbing images and data - yes DATA - about changes in temperature and glacier size up there.

I'd do it now, but I'm heading out the door. Should have time this afternoon.

BTW, thank you KPO. I feel the compliment!



I would love to see that.

Oh, and I will be totally ignoring Raptor in this thread. I hope everyone else does as well.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Sunday, October 2, 2011 12:50 PM


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Oh, and I will be totally ignoring Raptor in this thread. I hope everyone else does as well.






As you wish...


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Sunday, October 2, 2011 3:04 PM

I haven't been around a couple of days mostly because I can't find a thread worth responding to, there's so much bickering. News is slow, so I haven't found anything worth starting a thread with, either. But I'd love to see those photos, too. Looking forward to them.


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Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off


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Sunday, October 2, 2011 4:01 PM

rappy, as in a lot of areas (economics, warfare, and statecraft) you are sadly out of your depth in the science of climate change. I suggest you look deeply into the REAL issues of East Anglia, which had nothgin to do with widespread fraud and didn't change the final result one whit.

Instead of relying on your right-wing sources to pre-digest your thoughts for you so you can eat them up and regurgitate them later... completely (you will notice) bypassing the brain, why don't you challenge yourself by doing some real digging and some real thinking?

I know you won't, and that's why I call you a flat-earther: someone who is so absofuckinglutely deluded that would deny the ocean if they were drowning in it.

Oh, and BTW, I noticed that back in the OTHER thread you couldn't defend a 23% tax rate (probably because you had not put more than 1 minute looking it up using google, and not more than 0.5 seconds into it thinking about whether it actually made any sense) so I agree that you are not worth responding to. If I wanted to listen to right-wing propaganda, I'd go to the AM radio. I'm here to talk to people, not idiots.

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Sunday, October 2, 2011 4:17 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
rappy, as in a lot of areas (economics, warfare, and statecraft) you are sadly out of your depth in the science of climate change. I suggest you look deeply into the REAL issues of East Anglia, which had nothgin to do with widespread fraud and didn't change the final result one whit.



The fact that I don't buy into the spin from the Left is hardly evidence that I'm out of my depth. To the contrary, I'm more aware of this issue, and science in general, than your average joe/ jane citizen. A lot more. If anything, the lot on the Left remind me of the young earth creationists I use to debate, long ago. Mindless zealots, clinging to a empty belief system, all for the sole purpose of promoting a useless agenda.

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Instead of relying on your right-wing sources to pre-digest your thoughts for you so you can eat them up and regurgitate them later... completely (you will notice) bypassing the brain, why don't you challenge yourself by doing some real digging and some real thinking?



Yeah, 'real' thinking equates to that which agrees w/ your point of view. No thanks.

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I know you won't, and that's why I call you a flat-earther: someone who is so absofuckinglutely deluded that would deny the ocean if they were drowning in it.



An apt description of yourself, actually.

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Oh, and BTW, I noticed that back in the OTHER thread you couldn't defend a 23% tax rate (probably because you had not put more than 1 minute looking it up using google, and not more than 0.5 seconds into it thinking about whether it actually made any sense) so I agree that you are not worth responding to. If I wanted to listen to right-wing propaganda, I'd go to the AM radio. I'm here to talk to people, not idiots.




The FAIR Tax is the most researched and fact supported proposal out there. I don't know what you want me to do to " defend " it. I'll not bother with defending the lies and misrepresentations that the attackers ( both from the Left and Right ) have levied against the FAIR Tax, but why don't YOU take some of your own advice, and do some of your OWN research. And stop relying on the pre-digested thoughts and opinions others have crafted for YOU.





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Sunday, October 2, 2011 4:56 PM

Wow! I'm away for six months or so.... and not one damn thing changes.

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