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9/11 changed America's attitude toward religion

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Monday, September 5, 2011 3:23 AM

The religious in the US assume moral justification for war. If they didn't they'd have to be against it.


Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

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Monday, September 5, 2011 3:33 AM

Yeah, and your point ? Country music writers can write what ever the hell they want. So what ? It's their interpretation of what's going on in the world, something they seem to think is worth singing about, and which they can find an audience.

Has nothing to do w/ the reasons we responded to being attacked on 9/11.

I swear, some folks literally aren't happy unless they're arguing, and will find a reason, out of thin air, if need be.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, September 5, 2011 4:06 AM

Oh let's see - we invaded a country to get bin Laden who was offered to be turned over to the ICC, but that wasn't good enuf - WE wanted him 'dead or alive', dropped that as being 'not important' after a few months and with no bin Laden, turned to Iraq and killed a bunch of people on a pretext, then went back to killing in Afghanistan AND Pakistan, all while pretending what we were doing was not barbaric (watch that video) and that we were somehow morally justified. The US is a pit of irrational religious self-righteousness coupled with greed and hate, and looking at the jihadists I see - us. Except they only killed a few thousand. We're much more efficient.




Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

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Monday, September 5, 2011 4:21 AM

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The US is a pit of irrational religious self-righteousness coupled with greed and hate, and looking at the jihadists I see - us. Except they only killed a few thousand. We're much more efficient.


You're one mixed up human being.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, September 5, 2011 4:35 AM

Thanks for the laugh! And thanks for being such a good example!


Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

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Monday, September 5, 2011 6:21 AM

What? You'd rather a theocracy?

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Monday, September 5, 2011 8:08 AM

I, Jewish Psychopath:



part 1 of...

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Monday, September 5, 2011 12:37 PM

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9/11 changed a lot of things about the US, or so it looks from the other side of the world. A hardening of attitudes towards other nations and religions, a tolerance of torture and imprisonment without trial or representation.
Ouch. But yes, our GOVERNMENT reflects this, and a number of the population. But they're not the majority by far, just noisier.

Nonetheless, your point is well taken. And yes, I seem to remember two of their goals were:
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engage the U.S. in a long war of attrition

The U.S. economy will finally collapse under the strain of too many engagements in too many places, making the world wide economic system which is depended by the U.S. also collapse leading to global political instability

I'd say they're doing pretty damned good, wouldn't you? We're definitely tearing ourselves apart from inside, and the world is following nicely.

DT,
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Christianity has been on the rise for a long time
Do you mean on the rise in power, or on the rise in numbers? If the first, I agree. If the second, I posted before how there are fewer and fewer self-identified "Christians" than ever before, and the number has been going down for a long time now.
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The religious in the US assume moral justification for war. If they didn't they'd have to be against it.
Good point, Kiki. I think your other post, however, is more representative of SOME Americans, but by far not the majority; again, they're louder and more visible, so I would say more fervent perhaps than they used to be, but they're not all of us.

I gotta give Raptor credit; the way he pushes everyone's buttons and gets you to respond to him is very effective. Which is a shame.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off


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Monday, September 5, 2011 12:48 PM

Niki -

I'm not 'pushing buttons', in the least. I'm giving direct, honest replies, with out any hyperbole or rhetoric I see from the other side.

And which of the loud minority group are you attempting to put me into , so that we're clear ? The Religious Right ? I'm an atheist, dearie.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, September 5, 2011 2:46 PM

No, Rappy - you're a christian apologist, a willing enabler of the exact same Taliban tactics you claim to be against.

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