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9/11 changed America's attitude toward religion

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Monday, September 5, 2011 3:31 PM

Hello,

I think he is an atheist. He's said so many times.

Which proves there's more than one mental path to his end.

--Anthony



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“If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all”

Jacob Hornberger

“Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious right.”

Mahatma Gandhi

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Monday, September 5, 2011 3:43 PM

When I say he is a christian apologist, I'm not claiming he's christian. He's an APOLOGIST for their cause, a willing enabler if not an outright follower. He won't put on a uniform and join the military, but will claim that any military action undertaken by the U.S. is justified and morally right. Similarly, while Rappy might not actually be a fundie christian himself, he ardently supports the cause of christian dominionists because he feels that the ends ALWAYS justify the means. Much as jihadists can justify killing "infidels" because they aren't Muslims, and are therefore less than human, Rappy justifies torturing and killing others simply for not being Americans, and therefore not having any human rights.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, September 5, 2011 3:45 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Niki -

I'm not 'pushing buttons', in the least. I'm giving direct, honest replies, with out any hyperbole or rhetoric I see from the other side.



You can't make a claim without using hyperbole. You've claimed that ONLY ONE religion destroys artworks, you've claimed that ONLY ONE religion is killing in the name of its god, and you've repeatedly claimed that ONLY ONE religion has a history of doing so. And you've been proven time and again to be 100% wrong in your claims.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Monday, September 5, 2011 4:03 PM

"I think he is an atheist. He's said so many times."

There are different forms of true believers. Some believe in a god or gods, some like Rap believe in greed and social Darwinism, some believe in UFOs, etc It's about a belief organizing your thinking such that you need to deny reality to maintain your belief.


Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

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Monday, September 5, 2011 5:33 PM

Nah, not an apologist, it's just that he's just so terrified of Muslims he can't see beyond that. To admit anything bad about the military or Christianity is to say maybe Muslims aren't all that scary--you know, like actual human beings, and that won't do. It's got to be either/or, black/white, for him to feel safe(r), and he's desperate to get everyone else to believe as he does, to make him feel right(er).


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off


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Monday, September 5, 2011 6:32 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
he's desperate to get everyone else to believe as he does, to make him feel right(er).


No, he's desperate to get everyone to talk either to him or about him, to get every thread focused solely on his input. And I see the "all Muslims = bad" BS is still accomplishing this just fine.

Remember when we managed to ignore Rappy en mass for an extended time? He started doing all he could to get the attention back, making up obvious sockpuppets and stuff. Anything to get the focus back on himself. It was actually pretty funny, like watching a first grader slapping himself or something, trying to get his teacher's attention.

So, just an observation from someone who hasn't been around for awhile, because it seems to have been forgotten: Rappy doesn't give a shit about any of these topics. He's not posting real opinions as much as groveling for attention. And look, he got it. The thread quickly became another long, pointless discussion of the Rappy brain, or lack thereof. And I'm sure he's at home smoking a cigarette and cleaning himself off with tissues right now.

It makes for boring, repetitive threads, and it's a large part of why I quit hanging out here. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

This will be my only post about Rappy. Done.

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Monday, September 5, 2011 6:35 PM

Niki,

What's the purpose of your attempt to minimize, marginalize what happened on 9/11, and what the islamic jihadists are doing ? You think that trying to paint those who aren't too fond of what's taken place - 9/11, Beslan, Bali, London, Madrid, in the name of allah...., are just 'scared',and simply don't LIKE muslims?

Don't strain your neck too hard, as you're shoving your head into the deep dark places, as you ignore what's going on. You're more afraid of what others may THINK of you than admitting the truth.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Monday, September 5, 2011 8:19 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
he's desperate to get everyone else to believe as he does, to make him feel right(er).


Actually... no.

See, ain't about us - the person he is most desperately trying to convince, who he NEEDS to convince... is himself.

Otherwise he'd have to admit to things his consciousness couldn't mentally handle because he's long since crossed the moral event horizon and as such is unable to face that reality.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Monday, September 5, 2011 8:35 PM

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No, he's desperate to get everyone to talk either to him or about him, to get every thread focused solely on his input. ...

Remember when we managed to ignore Rappy en mass for an extended time? He started doing all he could to get the attention back, making up obvious sockpuppets and stuff. ... It was actually pretty funny, like watching a first grader slapping himself or something, trying to get his teacher's attention.

... He's not posting real opinions as much as groveling for attention. And look, he got it. The thread quickly became another long, pointless discussion of the Rappy brain, or lack thereof. And I'm sure he's at home smoking a cigarette and cleaning himself off with tissues right now.

It makes for boring, repetitive threads ...

Your post was WAAAaaayyy to funny.

I admit, I like to try and pick apart 'what is wrong with Rappy' (and by extension the other 25 - 30% of people for whom facts backfire), but that's just me. I can see how it would be boring to others.


Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in taxpayer funded bailouts, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and paid no taxes?

Yeah, me neither....

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Monday, September 5, 2011 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I admit, I like to try and pick apart 'what is wrong with Rappy' (and by extension the other 25 - 30% of people for whom facts backfire), but that's just me. I can see how it would be boring to others.


OK, damn, a second post...

I was also entertained by it, when I thought Rappy was a real person. I doubt that now. I think he (if it is a he) might be completely fabricated.

My ex, back in the early days of internet chats, used to hang out in a religious group and every once in a while post something that got them all batshit. Now, he was an atheist, but really didn't care one way or another about their debates. He just liked the feeling of power.

I'm just saying, it sounds a lot like our Rappy. In fact, he might *be* my ex... yeek LOL!

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