If Firefly was animé (fanvid alert)
POSTED BY: Cybersnark
UPDATED: Monday, August 30, 2004 20:44
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I've heard they are also thinking of changing the nationality of the pilots.
Here's where I read some of the info..
http://eva.trivialbeing.net/
I would love to see a live action movie but I agree that it would be tough to fit all that information in two hours. I'd hate to be really disappointed.
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Originally posted by Beatle:
I've heard they are also thinking of changing the nationality of the pilots.
Here's where I read some of the info..
http://eva.trivialbeing.net/
I would love to see a live action movie but I agree that it would be tough to fit all that information in two hours. I'd hate to be really disappointed.
yeah my friend told me that they might make them american and change their names which is total B.S.
i KNOW it will be dissapointing. and i just hope people go out and watch the anime series before they see the crap movie because if they see the movie first it will ruin it for them. man, what a way to taint the legacy of the greatest anime ever made.
thanks for the link btw.
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Quote:It's later. Come and get it!
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
I'll be on later tonight
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What should I search for to find it?
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Should be findable via "Ballad of Bebop" or by my handle, "JediBeast."
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Whoa! There is another Lain fan out there. I think I'm the only one in my town who digs the series (that I know of). Once again proving that Firefly fans have good taste.
Sorry I don't have much to post about the topic directly, but Bebop is definitely awesome in all its forms and it sounds like this incarnation as an AMV does both series justice.
Oh, I've been trying to convert my Trigun obsessed friends to check out Firefly as well. Six words, DEEP SPACE PLANET FUTURE GUN ACTION. I hope that got the message across to them. So we'll hope and pray and quite possibly add two new fans to the series (they're my first converts).
And if you like Bebop and Trigun and you're a Firefly fan as of now, I'm sure you do or should know of the infamous Tainted Donuts AMV.
Smooth space sailing folks.
P.S. w00t w00t to all the Eva fans out there, beautiful and shiny series that it is
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Originally posted by standing8:
neon genesis evangelion is the greatest anime of all time. nothing in the anime genre comes close to it. sci fi fans should make it a priority to watch the series and the two movies.
but fans of firefly should check out bebop.
I am a die hard sci-fi fan. And I didn't like Evangelion at all.
Greatest of all time? Surely you're kidding. It was okay. It sort of misrepresented itself on a number of levels. I did like some plot points. But the whole thing starts to slowly fall apart after a while. Especially that Adam and Eve ending that one of the movies had. I'll give you this, it starts out great. The first seven episodes are great. As an overal series, nope. The movies they've made? Nope again. Not great. How much anime have you seen? We're talking about a great bunch of shows in the late seventies and early 80's. And a string of remarkable series in the 90's. We're talking about a medium that has thousands upon thousands of entries. And Evangelion is suppose to be the greatest? That nothing comes close? You're entitled to your own views. I just can't support them. Because it's not true. My disdain doesn't come from the show introducing a realistic hero. I liked that. I just think the show overall isn't great. It's original take of mechas but it's just not the greatest anime of all time. There's a flaw in the storytelling. Sure there are some interesting plots. Some we've seen before. Some we haven't.
How is Evangelion better than even Cowboy Bebop, which you have mentioned. The storytelling in that series is head and shoulders above Evangelion. How is it better than Rurouni Kenshin or Escaflowne for that matter? I'd say it's in the top twenty. But it's not the greatest. How is it even better than Chobits, which i also don't like. How can it leap frog over all the Gundams? Which at one time had a point! Greatest? To say that nothing in the anime genre comes close to Evangelion shows that perhaps you need to see more anime, friend. Which is not a slight. There were people proclaiming that DBZ was the greatest anime ever, when it was just something new to them. Heck, I liked Saikano better than Eva. And that show hurts my head. Let's just call it the best show you've seen in the anime genre. Because it's not the greatest of all time. That has to go to a series that has great art and tells an incredible story. Eva has great art, and tells an interesting story. But it does not keep you interested. It can rather piss you off. Even if the cold characters don't matter to you.
Besides Evangelion is not a better show than Trigun. And Trigun isn't the greastest anime of all time. So where does that put Evangelion. Goodness, why'd you have to bring up this show! I tend to babble on about how it's not the greatest show whenever somone says it is. That argument used to happen alot years ago. Not so much these days. These days you ask someone what's the greatest anime of all time they'll give you a bunch of different anime. There are alot of anime shows that have better storytelling going on then EVA does.
Okay, back to what I originally wanted to say. Cowboy Bebop would be a good show to recommend to any Firefly fan. Though they are two very different shows. There a few things that are similarities . [How Jet acts is similar to the way Mal does. But they aren't the same. Their two men harden but who seem to keep letting vagabonds onto their ships.] Also their planetary systems are similar. That's about it. Goodness, did I just write a novel, or what.NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
How is it a crap movie when it hasn't even been made yet. Last I heard Gainax is working with Weta to make it. If their names are going to be changed then they are going to be changed. It all depends on how they plan on marketing the film. Though I will concide that storyline wise it would be silly to set this in America. Because There is an America in the storyline. [Though most of the characters look american.]
And once again it's not the greatest anime of all time. :)
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haha, you can find 20 MORE ways to say that eva isnt the GOAT but it dosent make it any less true.
pound for pound it has to be eva. i am far from what you call a "religious" person but the way religion is intertwined into this series is unlike anything ive ever seen in any other anime. very intelligent, very planned and thought out and at the same time its so off the wall. and how the series switched lanes on the audience from the start and how it finished. people thought it was your typical, simple "giant robot" anime but it became so much more near the end. the ideas thought up for this anime is either a mind of a genius or a madman. anno was both most likely.
bla bla bla to your complaints about storytelling. im not even trying to hear it. at the end you get to know the characters every thought and feeling. you knew EVERYTHING about these characters. and anno dosent need a DBZ run of episodes for you to do it. and to top it off, it showed the depth of the relationship between the creator(s) of a series and its fans. how alot of the fans felt cheated and angry at anno and even made death threats to him. and anno responding with "the end of eva" as the big "FUCK YOU" to fans and critics. gotta love it.
the scene where "third impact" was occuring in "the end of eva" is the most AMAZING thing i have seen in any anime and maybe in any movie for that matter. the world ending while "kom susser tod" is playing in the background is genius.(such a happy song to have on while the world ends) when youre done watching that sequence, i thought to myself "theres no way, that actually came from the inside of someones mind. its too INSANE." the series, is pound for pound untouchable as far as originality, shock value and brilliance goes imo.
haha youre comparing to gundam?! and chobits?! lol! nice try. none of the shows you listed COMBINED are as deep and complex as eva. comparing series duch as gundam with episodes numbering into the hundreds and comparing it to anno's masterpiece which only has a run of 27 episodes and 2 movies just strengthens evas argument. you must like alot of filler anime where quantity of episodes equals greatness. anno did it with a handful and near the end ran out of money and STILL managed to pull it off.
people dissect and analyze eva and the themes and the characters and what everything means. people simply WATCH the animes you listed. so go ahead and make your claims about how i need to see more anime and this and that and bla bla bla. cause you not liking eva dosent change anything really.
but keep barking if you like...
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Nah I wasn't comparing it to Gundam or Chobits. I did say I didn't like Chobits. Perhaps you missed it.I very much dislike anything Clamp puts out. Though I have to say that there have been at least two Gundams that I have enjoyed more than this. I am saying that those names come up. Those are shows that people rank before EVA. For whatever reason. Heck, I enjoyed Stand Alone Complex more than EVA. And as we all know that pretty much stinks on ice. Many people do not like EVA because of the religious aspects that it takes. Which I think is interesting. Others like me just can't get into the story, because it's not a very good one. As I said, I liked some of the plots. The religous aspects didn't really bother me because it's nothing more than a tv show. I know some people theme the series as this complex work of psedu modern art. Which is fine. I myself liked the ideals that were instilled in some of the early Gundam series. Y'know things that actually can happen. That's the best sci-fi right there, chief. It's more believeble that a kid can pilot a killing machine in a war he wants no part in than a story that is basically about the destruction and recreation of the world. Because that's all Eva is. Rework it all you want, that's the story. There are some interesting plot points to it. Some very interesting things do happen. But at the end of the day anyone who watches has to look beyond a collection of ideas and see the overall picture. One has to ask one's self if the story itself is impressive. If it has moved you and made you care about the verse it takes place in. Can something be great if you don't care about what happens to anyone? Eva left me stone cold. I wished they all died. Well, except Misado, and the penguin. For something to be great, as in the greatest of all time it has to speak to you on a deeper level than depression. I am not saying everything has to be smiles. The greatest anything has to achieve greatness. It has to involve it's audience on an emotional level. It has to make it's audience think. It has to make them care. And it most evolve. It is true that Eva makes you think. But it never makes you care. It never draws you in that way. Instead you antiscipate what happens next in the plot. Not whether the characters live or die. Because it doesn't matter. Even if that's the purpose of the plot. You never care about the characters anyway.
Dude, how dare you dismiss the storytelling! At the end of the day that's what everything is about. The story! I am well aware of the years people have put into thinking what everything means. But a psychological question that does not relent does not match up with character developement. People have had those same discussions for silly animations such as .hack. Almost every good animation can be discussed on deep levels. That just falls into the realm of a plot point. Which are interesting. Some people, most just let it go. Others slide into an X-Files like , truth is out there scully existence. It's interesting. But still the story does not speak to every level of human emotion. Eva doesn't, and never has. It's a nice take on giant robots. It goes some places no one has gone. Well at least in the same series. It's interesting. But at the end of the day it's about story.
Of course you get to know the characters over the course of the series. But there's too many conspiracies, and bells and whistles. Perhaps too many characters. I know for sure there's too many characters that don't matter. Eva takes an interesting story and drives it into the ground. Where's the character developement? Some have it, many just seem like they were thrown against the wall to see if they'd stuck.
Again how is this better than Trigun? A show that makes you feel for the characters and their plight. A show that makes you care about what's going on. About who lives and dies. How is Eva better than that? Answer it isn't. Back when the internet boomed there were two shows people just had to see. I just mentioned one of them. You praise the other. At the end of the day
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