Scenes you didn't understand
POSTED BY: bufo
UPDATED: Friday, November 9, 2012 23:52
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I don't think she was trying to entice Atherton there, either. His forwardness and possessiveness were kind of putting her off a little, shaming her. She's still a little wary when they start to dance, and seems almost afraid to say no to his offer even though she can't accept.
Otherwise, I'd agree with that take on her and Book.
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I agree, I was not thinking of Wing when I wrote my response. He always seems a strange fit for her. Almost as if she took him as a client more for his status then anything else.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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I think she probably had some fine appointments with him, but that this time around he started to get a little weird because he was starting to become a little obsessive, and apparently he had some psychopathic tendencies even before then (a little too enthusiastic about killing people in duels). Mal just happened to make it worse.
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I agree with M52's theory as a valid interpretation, makes sense to me.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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Okay, I have a couple that are more questions then not understanding.
First, in Safe the scene where Mal is telling Simon to take a walk with River there is a strange shot of a bush that just seems jammed in the middle of the conversation. I've never understood this.
Second, in Objects, who things that River is really walking through the ship? Personally I've never thought she really was because no one responds to her. Thoughts?
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That scene in "Safe" was to indicate that the backwoodsmen were hiding in the bushes. They heard Mal call Simon a doctor, and that is when they decided to kidnap him.
I've always been of the opinion that River was not walking through the ship, or if she was it was through astral projection.
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Hmm, normally I double check to see if the glitch ate my post. Anyway, yeah, what ecgordon said.
As for River in OIS it could be a number of things. One theory I've heard is that she was actually going down into Jayne's bunk for a gun, because people think Jayne is very professional and careful with his guns.
I think she probably just found one of the "in-case-of-ambush" guns taped up somewhere.
But no, she didn't have to be physically walking past any of the crew, unless her ability to read people is dependent on her ability to see them.
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I don't think River was literally walking through the ship in OIS. As was said no one responds to her, not even Simon and Kaylee, so that tells me that she wasn't really standing there in front of them. I do think she was wandering around the ship, just not in the places where the people she is observing actually were. I know she must have been wandering since she found a gun (which I believe someone left out) and then we see her in there with everyone. Bottom line: They absolutely need to keep guns locked in their bunks or keep them on theire person at all times, it is not okay to leave them around where River could accidentally get at them. When you're looking after touched folk you need to make the environment as condusive to that as possible. Period.
I suspect that Jayne isn't all that careful with his guns, sure he treats them well, cleans them maintains them, doesn't like people playing with them, but he seems the type to leave them out and assume that no one will touch them because he's made it clear that they shouldn't. But with River when she isn't lucid it isn't that easy.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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I suspect that Jayne isn't all that careful with his guns, sure he treats them well, cleans them maintains them, doesn't like people playing with them, but he seems the type to leave them out and assume that no one will touch them because he's made it clear that they shouldn't. But with River when she isn't lucid it isn't that easy.
I would disagree with that-- I would think that any person who makes his living with guns knows that they are a lethal force in his own hands, and a lethal hazard in the hands of any other person or in any uncontrolled situation. Therefore,I would think that keeping track of the location of any known firearm not absolutely secured and locked up is a matter of second nature to any such person. I would figure that anybody who doesn't winds up dead, sooner rather than later.
Any of you habitual carriers or security types care to comment?
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NewOld I'm going to agree with you. I tend to believe Jayne when he says he does not leave his guns out. We also see Simon already talking to her to put the gun down and it seems he came from the common area. So River may have walked through there. Another question, is that the same gun she used in War Stories? If so it was given to Kaylee from the lockers just inside the cargo bay.
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