Don't pet the 180 pound doggie...
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We need giant wolves to replace the 95% of humans the Feds plan to make extinct for the New World Odor.
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Oh, yeah, Riona--wasn't that neat?? I got to be friends with the wolves at the SF Zoo one Summer...I drove Jim's son to and from the Zoo to participate in a Summer program, and spent the time he was in it at the wolf enclosure rather than drive all the way back. There was a hole at the back of the enclosure that the wolves had dug...they could get one nose at a time through it and I could get my whole arm through. We got to be good buddies.
I've also met numerous "pet" wolves here in Marin. I never knew there were so many until we opened our pizza parlor and used it to collect money for various environmental and animal-rights causes. That led to a number of the people who had wolves coming forth, and some inviting us to meet them. In every case, it was a very special experience I'll never forget.
There are also a few wolf conservationists who take wolves to schools and let kids meet them...and in almost every case, they get the kids to sit in a circle and how, and of course the wolf joins in. I think it's great SOME kids are getting educated about the realities of wolves, rather than being left to be indoctrinated by lies.
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Ooh, neat Riona. You know the wolves don't howl out of aggression, but to identify their own or sometimes just to "sing" for the heck of it?
You're a wolf! :)
I can talk dog, and cat, but wolf has been eluding me. Used to be able to do a real nice wolf howl, but I never was able to get them to call me back.
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Anthony: "MORE people are harmed by dogs"? Are you kidding? VERIFIED wolf attacks on humans are few, and even through ancient history turn out to be more often myth than truth, OR were attacks by rabid wolves, whereas dog attacks happen virtually every DAY around the world!
Eurasian wolves were more aggressive than any other, historically, but there were reasons for that and today I don't think it holds true.Quote:
Wiki
Attacks due to provocation have occurred, usually involving shepherds defending their flocks, though none recorded fatalities.[2] Unprovoked attacks by non-rabid wolves are rare, but have happened. The majority of victims of unprovoked healthy wolves tend to be women and children.[2] Historically, attacks by healthy wolves tended to be clustered in space and time, indicating that human-killing was not a normal behavior for the average wolf, but rather an atypical behavior that single wolves or packs developed and maintained until they were killed.
With the exception of one attack on a French shepherd in 2001, modern Western Europe has had very few attacks and no recent fatalities. "Lupus", a German group of wildlife biologists, says it has documented 250 encounters between people and wolves in the Lusatia region and there were no problems in any of the cases. Admittedly this is because wolves have been wiped out in so many places... The opinion of wolves hasn't changed much, but education and efforts to fight the stereotype has helped a lot in recent times. Unfortunately, the stereotype will probably never die out (any more than the one about snakes), because Narnia, Harry Potter, and other movies will continue to use them as symbols of "evil".
Unquestionably, as their territory becomes less and less, they have become more habituated to humans and that makes for more aggressive behavior. As their territory becomes less and less, their food supply lessens as well, so they turn more to preying on domesticated animals. But wolves are one of the smartest predator species; they don't attack humans indiscrimately. Dogs are made more neurotic by living WITH us, so their behavior is less predictable, and there will always be dog attacks.
Most of the recent wolf attacks have been on people who are walking their dogs, which the wolves consider prey. Even those haven't ended up in deaths, and most of them were broken off by the human making noise and frightening the wolves away.
Your suggestions are good ones, Anthony, and I'd add a couple more. One doesn't even need a gun; pepper spray would work fine. And, just as for bears, making noise or wearing a bell of some sort will keep most wildlife away from you, predator or otherwise. If one does encounter a wolf, making yourself as big as possible, waiving your arms around and hollering will deter almost all predator attacks...they say it works for bears, too, but I don't think I ever want to be in the position of trying it!
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Byte, you should have huskies. They'd "teach" you! Or better yet, Malamutes. They're the ones who don't bark, but howl. Huskies do both--plus an incredible myriad of other "communication" sounds. They're hysterical.
I saw one of those groups of kids howling with the wolf, it was sooo neat! And thank you, yes, just like coyotes, wolves howl differently for many, many reasons. There is currently a guy working on recording wolf howls and giving them to farmers to decrease predation on livestock (did we have a thread about thsi recently?); it's actually WORKING, and scientists are exploring it further. Would beat the hell out of shooting them...tho' the hunters (and some farmers) would continue to prefer the latter. Especially in Idaho/Montana. Assholes.
By the way, the article initially posted is because Idaho is working on getting the wolf de-listed and starting sport hunting of them again. There's a ton of propaganda out there about it right now. It's not about any new or even existing SERIOUS problem, it's about politics and a certain mentality.
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Idiots.
The best way to not get your ass chewed on by a wolf is to understand wolves!
Knowledge of the behavior and characteristics of the local wildlife you may run into is for a fact more effective than a grenade launcher, but try telling some idiots that, like hunters who don't even know a fuckin thing about deer to begin with, not even what they taste like!
(Ok, if you ain't gonna EAT it, IMHO why the hell are you gonna shoot it ?)
There's actually damn few animals that'll attack a human, and outside of critical starvation, only a bare handful of reasons - so it's not beyond the pale to expect the bloody fools likely to run across those animals to know them.
We had a wolf come up on us right after MickT shot a good sized deer and was climbing down to fetch the game rack to haul it off on, and said furball came sniffing about, so I dropped to one knee, fluffed my coat out and gave him some teeth and a growl (This is MINE, piss off!), he backs off a bit, marks the spot (Yeah, yeah, but leave me some, will ya ?) and so on and so forth - it's not to damn hard to understand, or learn, for that matter, a lot of it is very inuitive, you ask me.
Most of them ranchers are idiots anyhow, if you want to chase off wolves, don't use a dog, get a skunk - wolves KNOW what those are, and will not under most circumstances, mess with em, and if you can't, a paintball gun loaded with stinkballs works just fine - not only will they remember to stay the hell away from where they got smacked with one, they'll encourage other wolves to stay away too, duh.
Humans, meh... it's a wonder we survive, sometimes.
Oh, and cats sing too, Molly always has, from soon after we rescued her, although given she went from horrible conditions to spoiled rotten, I wonder sometimes if she doesn't think she kicked it and landed in kitty heaven.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Heh, one of our cats sings too, a male. I just figured he was caterwauling despite being neutered. So female cats'll do it too. Interesting.
Heh, I've had to get my cats to respect my food in a similar way, especially our somewhat chubby girl. She's a big eater that one. But it turns out the first part of "Mine" can sound just like an angry cat in the right circumstances, and then you just add some hunching over the plate. Then she gets it.
My brother's excitable dog also seems to understand my "okay, knock it off" growl.
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Hee hee hee, I HAVE to ask...
So, does he sing soprano now ?
-F
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Like a choir boy. Poster cat for an angelic temperament. He can barely even "hurt" his mouse toys, though that might be more him being an incompetent hunter than anything.
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