Love Kevin Spacey, as an actor, but he's
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So, might this thread have best been started in News Headline Discussion ? I kinda think THAT would be over blowing it a bit.
Or are you suggesting that news media is NOT in any way 'reality' ? On that point, we might very well agree.
The Phoenix lights, meaning the UFO configuration which many saw and videotaped ?
That is a bit of a mystery, as I recall.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
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I agree that the arts should be available for the "unwashed masses" as to who would do better at supporting such things, the government or volunteer bodies, I don't really know, I figure we have both now and that's fine with me for the time being.
How can we expect Spacey to know everything? Hollywood people rarely seem to know much, sure there are exceptions, but generally they just read their lines, just like ... acting in films, read and memorize. Don't get me wrong I like actors, after all if we didn't have them we wouldn't have movies or plays, so I do appreciate them and their talents.
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Sure, but casting such pearls before you, is a waste of time.
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So, this is now your thing, huh? Make inane, baseless comments or claims, and then run away, w/ out even the decency to bother to explain?
Yeah, he should have posted a Chris Matthews video and then called you a copy-cat! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
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My point was that not only did Spacey come up w/ a phony quote, but he was then treated with the most accepting sort of deference and agreement by Matthews. It falls in line with what both WANT to be true, and instead of dealing in fact, they instead make up their own little version, repeat it, put it out in the ethos, and folks blindly accept it, and move on.
This is the driving force behind the conservative movement and FauxNews. Lie, lie, lie, and keep repeating the lie until it becomes your intended audience's accepted "truth".
And look how well it works. You actually BELIEVE the yellowcake lie!
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And look how well it works. You actually BELIEVE the yellowcake lie!
Who lied ? Bush? The British intel who always stuck w/ the story ?
Do you even know ? Or care ? Of course you don't, because all you have left is to make empty claims, time and time again.
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The Phoenix lights, meaning the UFO configuration which many saw and videotaped ?
That is a bit of a mystery, as I recall.
Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Better to discuss things we can't answer and speculate. Did you know they Appeared in 1997, and 2007 over Phoenix? Over 10,000 witnesses. Government denied it saying they were military flares. A group of Hospice workers noted that the object hovered over their balcony eerily silent. No engine noise. They estimated the object(or ship) to be massive.
Now, what were you saying about Kevin Spacey?
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I like Kevin Spacey as an actor, but he's...
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The Phoenix lights, meaning the UFO configuration which many saw and videotaped ?
That is a bit of a mystery, as I recall.
Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Better to discuss things we can't answer and speculate. Did you know they Appeared in 1997, and 2007 over Phoenix? Over 10,000 witnesses. Government denied it saying they were military flares. A group of Hospice workers noted that the object hovered over their balcony eerily silent. No engine noise. They estimated the object(or ship) to be massive.
Now, what were you saying about Kevin Spacey?
That's why there's more than just 1 thread , I suppose.
And as for your topic... some want to believe. I want to know.
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But for argument's sake, let's assume this biographer is correct. So Kevin quoted something that is widely, but incorrectly, attributed to Winston Churchill. Do a google search on --winston churchill "what are we fighting for"-- and you'll find dozens, if not hundreds, of other people who have quoted it. (Google search actually returned 417,000 results. I'm pretty sure there are at least 150 people in there who cited the same quotation.)
So how is one actor supposed to know wide attribution is incorrect? You see it so often, one just assumes it is common knowledge.
If you want to debunk that myth, that is fine. But to accuse dozens/hundreds of people of "lying" because they didn't read Winston Churchill's biographies before quoting him is unreasonable.Quote:
And there you have it. Raptor continues on with his partisan, mixed-up jabberwocking and personal insults. Totally a non-thread.
The truth is that this thread has nothing to do with Spacey or Churchill. It is instead a device to score political points for a point of view in opposition to a political party.
It boils down neatly to this: "Libtards Lie, News at Eleven."
And but for the sake of making that statement, this thread would not exist here. It would instead exist in some obscure Historical debate forum. "Was Spacey Mistaken?" it might be called. Or "What is the origin of this fable?"
I love Kevin Spacey, I've enjoyed every movie and interview he's been in...except maybe "Swimming With Sharks". If you haven't seen it, please don't!
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And there you have it. Raptor continues on with his partisan, mixed-up jabberwocking and personal insults. Totally a non-thread.
Niki - the only one 'mixed up' here is you. Kevin was wrong. Deal w/ it. You're the one making personal insults here. Totally a non-reply by you.
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Please show exactly where I said Kevin was RIGHT...because I never did. I'm not mixed up, I merely agreed that this thread is nothing more than more of your partisan jihad to find ANYTHING with which you can diss anything/anyone on the left.Quote:
Try to keep up, or just sit there until the next thread comes by. Maybe you can join in on that one ?Quote:
Seriously, do you have ANYTHING of substance to offer ? Quote:
So, this is now your thing, huh? Make inane, baseless comments or claims, and then run away, w/ out even the decency to bother to explain?Quote:
Deal with the issue, as it is, with OUT trying to act like a 4 year old, k ?Quote:
Nah, no personal insults there, none whatsoever. You betcha.
Of course you don't, because all you have left is to make empty claims, time and time again.
I'm sure you don't recognize them as such, you'll insist "I'm just stating the truth"...the problem is, YOUR truth and reality aren't necessarily the same thing.
My post did nothing but quote a very right-on observation. You might have replied to that, but you went off on another tangent and put words in my mouth. In case you missed it, here is what I quoted, and the ENTIRE explanation of this thread:Quote:
The truth is that this thread has nothing to do with Spacey or Churchill. It is instead a device to score political points for a point of view in opposition to a political party.
It boils down neatly to this: "Libtards Lie, News at Eleven."
And but for the sake of making that statement, this thread would not exist here.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off
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