Movie sequels you just loathe.

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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, March 8, 2011 8:11 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
Oh come on worst movies ever? In Reloaded Neo is basically a superhero.

I was willing to like Reloaded... so yeah, maybe that one doesn't technically count... but Revulsions was so heavy handed, preachy & plain dumb that it sort of ruined Reloaded for me.
I mean, look at the movies the W brothers made or produced! Hell, even Speed Racer was gold next to Revulsions!!! Everyone drops the ball once in a while, but since Matrix was (and IS) one of my favourite flicks of all time, the sting from the third film is particularly, uhhhh.. stinging...

The laughing Chrisisall

STORYMARK

Tuesday, March 8, 2011 8:44 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:

Oh, and that's the only way it could have gone?
Wow. My head must be full of ideas that NO ONE ELSE could ever think of, I guess...

But are they constant with the world as shown?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

STORYMARK

Tuesday, March 8, 2011 8:49 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Storymark:

Saying they're the worst ever is hyperbolic to a ridiculous degree.
They are the worst movies ever.
The first was innovative & clever.
The other two were made because contracts were signed, as far as I can tell. The W brothers were in a corner. And they painted their way out with nonsense.
Neo dies, Trinity dies, trinity dies, Neo dies.
PLUS the longest cartoon battles ever put on film.

If you introduce superhero themes in your first flick, don't be surprised when the audience doesn't like a sudden gear change to, ahem, "realism." LOL.

The laughing Chrisisall

They were not contracted to do sequels.

Again, it may have been nonsense to you, but I followed along just fine.

Characters die. So what?

The superhero themes were still present, just not as simplistic as it seems you wanted. The other themes explored were also introduced in the original, so your kvetching sounds a bit whiney.

And realistic.... wtf movie were you watching? Would that be the army of one man, the flip-flopping gravity, the super-sonic flying dude, the ghost twins, the robots, or.... seriously, wtf ARE you talking about there?

It's funny - people like to complain about how no one makes original stories anymore, that they're tired of the same thing.... then when someone tries, the same people bitch that it wasn't the same thing enough.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, March 8, 2011 9:49 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:

And realistic.... wtf movie were you watching?

That would be switching from a story where peeps conveniently come back from the dead to one where death is somehow suddenly final.

The laughing Chrisisall

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, March 8, 2011 10:00 PM

How do I compete with this list?

Okay: Speed 2.

Indiana Jones 2 and 4.

Odd numbered trek films, esp. 5.

Alien3. The Ironic thing is I love the franchise and I like Fincher, it was just a mismatch.

Cringeworthy moments: (spoiler out of ritual, not that there's a snowflake's chance that there's anyone here who hasn't seen the film.)

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Ripley who is so tough that when she kicks open the door to see a nest of 10,000 aliens she rolls her eyes.... is now terrified of prison thugs?

Killing Newt. Completely unforgivable. It voids the entire second movie, because all of the sacrifices that are made, the only thing that they *do* accomplish is rescuing her, and since they went to rescue survivors, you can call it a fools errand or a bad numerical exchange, but not a total failure... until 3.

Enemy downgrade. I don't remember what director said this, maybe it was Cameron, but "One thing you can never do in a sequel is downgrade the enemy. You have to upgrade it. People have met your enemy. They know how this story, if they want to meet it again, they'll watch your last movie." Enemy downgrade is always a fatal flaw, and this one does it to stellar proportions. We're given one argument that this alien is "evolved" but really, it's no better than the last ones, there's only one of it, and it's not really even a full queen.

Not to mention endless little flaws like the Ripley and Bishop being way out of character.

The best part of the film was the dog scene. Or the image of corporates with briefcases in one hand and assault rifles in the other.

How can a list like this have gone on this long without anyone mentioning the new Star Wars Trilogy?!? Esp. Ep. 3 OMFG.

This deserves a monolith with writing carved in stone to immortalize unparalleled badness.

Batman and Robin. WTF.

Robocop 2 was weak, but Robocop 3 was OMFG bad.

Jurassic Park, same story. Which one was it that had Nick and Sara the morons who keep bringing dinosaur chaos where hundreds of tons of lizard tramples the human encampment and no one is squashed like a bug. Hell, no one thinks about it.

But, Star Wars man... It's like Lucas looked at his original work and said "I wonder what would happen if I took this and crossed it with Claire's Knee?"

ZEEK

Tuesday, March 8, 2011 10:13 PM

I didn't list any of the star wars prequels cause it was a sequels thing. I guess you could say Episode II was a sequel to Episode I and the like, but I think they actually got a little better each time.

STORYMARK

Tuesday, March 8, 2011 10:21 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

How can a list like this have gone on this long without anyone mentioning the new Star Wars Trilogy?!? Esp. Ep. 3 OMFG.

For me, I didn't hate any of them - Ep 1 is my least favorite of the series by FAR, but it still has good moments and is better than a lot of adventure flicks out there. And like Zeek, I thought they improved with every installment, III being my favorite of the prequels.

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Batman and Robin. WTF.

Couldn't agree more. I can't believe I didn't list it myself - probably blocked it from memory.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

STORYMARK

Tuesday, March 8, 2011 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Storymark:

And realistic.... wtf movie were you watching?
That would be switching from a story where peeps conveniently come back from the dead to one where death is somehow suddenly final.

The laughing Chrisisall

Now you're bordering on deliberately disingenuous.

I can name a lot of stories where people came back from the dead, and yet death was still possible. Pretty much ANY story with resurrection still has death as an element or possibility.

But what's funny is that you so willfully ignore the context. The one guy who can transcend the rules of the Matrix survives a "death" in the world he has control over. The other deaths... they're in the really real world. Consistent with the rules of the world at hand, and context is relevant.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

MOOSE

Tuesday, March 8, 2011 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by lwaves:

Highlander 2.
Worst. Sequel. Ever. What were they thinking.

First thing I thought of.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, March 9, 2011 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Pretty much ANY story with resurrection still has death as an element or possibility.

Okay, I give you that.
Two last issues on this for me:
Trinity gets to talk & talk & talk before dying.
Cartoon machine battles.

In a way, it's very Shakespearean, and if you like that, then the movies are arguably well worth your time.
However, IMO, killing all your characters has been done to death, pardon my intentional pun.

Peace.

The laughing Chrisisall

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