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Movie sequels you just loathe.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2011 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Pretty much ANY story with resurrection still has death as an element or possibility.


Okay, I give you that.
Two last issues on this for me:
Trinity gets to talk & talk & talk before dying.
Cartoon machine battles.

In a way, it's very Shakespearean, and if you like that, then the movies are arguably well worth your time.
However, IMO, killing all your characters has been done to death, pardon my intentional pun.

Peace.





The laughing Chrisisall




Well, I do like me some Shakespeare.

Death isn't always instantaneous.

How many other big blockbuster franchises killed off their leads?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, March 9, 2011 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:


How many other big blockbuster franchises killed off their leads?


I was talkin' more the classics.

What started as a cool SF/Buddhist thing ended up a Greek Tragedy w/a decidedly Judeo-Christian bent.

And for what it was, I guess it was well done.

But I *loathed* it. That's all.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, March 9, 2011 1:05 AM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
I didn't list any of the star wars prequels cause it was a sequels thing. I guess you could say Episode II was a sequel to Episode I and the like, but I think they actually got a little better each time.



Zeke,

Many sequels are prequels, you can rule out Indy 2 on that grounds, but 2 and 3 are sequels of 1, and 3, IMHO, had major issues. Even after 1 and 2. I thought it was similar to the degeneration of PoTC, though I think PotC 1 was more Raiders level of a film, and SW Ep 1 was definitely not.

I didn't like Resident Evil because it was still enjoyable, even will the obvious decay, and the word "loathe" was in the subject line.

A large part of it also is expectations. I mean Gremlins 2, the new batch, is a pretty sharp plummet from the first, but no one was expecting otherwise, and certainly not expecting high art. It was a watchable film, just losing the serious/silly duality of the first.

Likewise, Troll 2, which I've seen, was terrible, truly, but what did you expect?


Topically, a Bladerunner sequel rumor is bouncing around. Maybe it will actually happen. Who knows.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2011 2:29 AM

Did anyone mention Caddyshack II yet?


Really.


The. Worst. Sequel. Ever.

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Wednesday, March 9, 2011 4:10 PM

I gotta say the "Starship Troopers" franchise, since they skipped right to everything that could be wrong with a sequel in the very first movie.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Wednesday, March 9, 2011 6:50 PM

Lion King II

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Wednesday, March 9, 2011 9:52 PM

Originally posted by dreamtrove:

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A large part of it also is expectations. I mean Gremlins 2, the new batch, is a pretty sharp plummet from the first, but no one was expecting otherwise, and certainly not expecting high art. It was a watchable film, just losing the serious/silly duality of the first.


What?! No way. I love the New Batch far more than the over sentimental Gremlins which was almost deliberatley merchanding itself.

No I'll take the anarchic 'Tex Avery' stlye humour of the New Batch every time thank you.




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Wednesday, March 9, 2011 10:06 PM

Originally posted by chrisisall:

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The sequels were the worst movies ever made IMO,


Well right off the bat The Matrix confused the hell out a me and so I found myself just watching for the set pieces. Usually I'd try and figure out all the subtexts and symbolizim but with the Matirx films it all felt like it was playing to the 'COOL'.
The sequels didn't move me much, but for pure action I prefer the second one. Plus they had the bright idea of casting Monica Bellucci
Genius


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Wednesday, March 9, 2011 11:05 PM

Not to be conformist or anything, but I wasn't actually nominating Gremlins 2 for "loathe." Gremlins 1 had that light/dark duality that I like, as did PotC 1. However, I will not cross Phoebe Cates. So, concession on Gremlins 2, but not that it was better than Gremlins. Still, like many things, I was glad that it existed at all, which was unexpected.


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Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:38 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
for pure action I prefer the second one. Plus they had the bright idea of casting Monica Bellucci
Genius


TOTALLY agree.


The laughing Chrisisall

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