Help Nathan Buy Firefly
POSTED BY: Channain
UPDATED: Thursday, February 24, 2011 19:08
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Sure it's fiction. No-one says it's reality. Want quasi reality go watch Jersey Shore. Yes people are really that stupid and society and today's media encourage it.
What's having a little hope hurt? What's it cost? Nothing.
Things don't get changed by sitting back and giving up.
The definition of fan is: An ardent devotee; an enthusiast.
Not sensing a whole lot of enthusiasm for some. And before anyone goes spouting off about rabid fandom, all Channin was doing was bringing this to our attention.
She had hope. So sue her. If it doesn't happen, oh well, we'll wait for the next rumour and hope that this time it'll stick. We all realize the chances may be slim, but the fact that it is still being talked about be the actors and creators...
Not interested in having hope or seeing someone else have a little hope, don't read. No-one is forcing.
An appropriate adult answer is, "Here's hoping, probably won't but still."
Yeesh...
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The website itself is over the top. It was created in a matter of a day from an off the cuff comment in an interview. Nathan is great at pandering to the fans. That's why so many of them love him so much. It doesn't mean that everything he says is 100% serious.
This whole "we've done the impossible and that makes us mighty" thing is also something that gets old after a while. People on these very boards have pointed out how little the fans have actually done. It's basically a big lie at this point.
All I'm saying is that we should try to stick to the truth as best we can. It makes browncoats look a lot more mature and rational IMO.
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Quote:And you're more than welcome to your opinion, Mr. "I would date Lois Lane from Smallville." So fiction is okay when it comes to hot characters you'd like to date - so noted and glad for the distinction, thank you.
Zeek said:
This kind of detachment from reality is exactly the type of thing I think should be avoided. That's a line from a movie. It's just a work of fiction. Purple bellies are also fictional. Just like the chances this campaign will work.
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Zeek also said:
It just doesn't seem healthy to me to be getting to worked up over something like this. If people want to have an open honest discussion about it then that's cool. Throwing out a bunch of hype and getting people excited over nothing but a website just doesn't sit well with me.
This is an open and honest discussion by "people" aka Browncoats who are very passionate about this very subject. The fact that we happen to use Firefly lingo to express it is just fun, that's all.
I feel the need to spread the word, until I deem that it's time to not. You are more than welcome to contradict me until it's time to stop.
Rock?
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Originally posted by Channain:Quote:And you're more than welcome to your opinion, Mr. "I would date Lois Lane from Smallville." So fiction is okay when it comes to hot characters you'd like to date - so noted and glad for the distinction, thank you.
Zeek said:
This kind of detachment from reality is exactly the type of thing I think should be avoided. That's a line from a movie. It's just a work of fiction. Purple bellies are also fictional. Just like the chances this campaign will work.
You can understand the difference between hypothetical questions and questions based in reality, right? If not this whole mix up might be easier to explain.
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Originally posted by Channain:Quote:
Zeek also said:
It just doesn't seem healthy to me to be getting to worked up over something like this. If people want to have an open honest discussion about it then that's cool. Throwing out a bunch of hype and getting people excited over nothing but a website just doesn't sit well with me.
This is an open and honest discussion by "people" aka Browncoats who are very passionate about this very subject. The fact that we happen to use Firefly lingo to express it is just fun, that's all.
I feel the need to spread the word, until I deem that it's time to not. You are more than welcome to contradict me until it's time to stop.
Rock?
Yeah it's a message board. We can all say what we want for the most part. I just feel the need to set the record straight when I think people are posting misleading things.
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Quote:And if it turns out it is misleading or malicious in anyway, I will be the first to say so. In ALL CAPS on each and every venue I've already posted my support. There will be fire, and there will be brimstone. You can rely upon that.
Zeek wrote:
Yeah it's a message board. We can all say what we want for the most part. I just feel the need to set the record straight when I think people are posting misleading things.
What you should reconsider, though, is the idea that Nathan wasn't kidding about doing an Internet series. He would be crazy to give up a gig as good as Castle, but he's also doing a voice-over for the Green Lantern. Doing Firefly on the Internet would be a side venture - a guy has to do something during the hiatus, right? Why not devote his time to regaining a role his still treasures?
Unless you're a personal friend of his and can say for a fact that he said to you, "No, I didn't mean that," then any doubts you have about his actions are as superfluous as my confidence in him. FYI, I haven't met him either, nor do I have the pleasure of calling him my friend. But then I give that title to a very distinct few.
So as much as you object to me being misleading, I object to your unfounded opinion about what a perfect if very visual stranger would or would not do.
Given that, and a healthy dose of reality, I can support this venture. I supported Serenity and I still believe that without the Browncoats there wouldn't have been a movie. I will even accept that we didn't do as much as we'd like to think, but without people to buy the tickets, we still wouldn't even be talking about it in these terms.
Quote:This is entirely hypothetical until some results start to show up. But nothing moves from hypothetical into reality in media genre fiction until the actual fans know about it and choose to do something.
Zeek Asked:
You can understand the difference between hypothetical questions and questions based in reality, right? If not this whole mix up might be easier to explain.
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From Whedonesque: http://whedonesque.com/comments/25916#405602
Quote:Comic relief -- outside Rupert Murdoch's office:
For anybody who missed it, here's a few of the previous fan campaigns:
There's been FireflySeason2.com - now defunct - previous thread http://whedonesque.com/comments/9347 - which was registered in an address on Fox's lot with somebody claiming to be in contact with joss and the actors to get the rights off Fox. It was unrealistic balls.
There was 2009's MySerenitySequel.com - now defunct - with aimed to collect $50 x 400,000 people.. This is the same math as HelpNathanBuyFirefly.com are using, as it happens.
Also browncoatsriseagain.com - now defunct - previous thread http://whedonesque.com/comments/9309 - which was collecting money via Paypal until one of the producers talked them out of it and got the money returned.
There were also some things called Operation Blue Hands, Operation Full Burn etc.
gossi | February 21, 17:28 CET
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New article:
Entertainment Weekly, February 21, 2011
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/02/21/help-nathan-fillion-buy-firefly/
Conclusion of the article:
"BTW: Firefly ratings back in 2002? About a 2.9 in the adult demo. Which nowadays is considered a success — it’s what CSI and The Mentalist pulled this week. Not that the space-western would likely get the same numbers if on the air today when there’s so much more competition from cable, but it’s interesting to think about."
Makes you wonder why, doesn't it?
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Well, I'm intrigued. Not ready to commit to pledging or anything yet, but as soon as Joss or Nathan is on board then so am I.
Okay, it may be a long shot. That doesn't mean it's not worth a try. Nobody ever accomplished anything by not bothering to try.
"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."
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Quote:What really makes me wonder is what FOX replaced Firefly with. Did the next show in Firefly's timeslot do worse? And what then replaced the replacement? Did it also do worse than Firefly? If we knew about those replacements, we could rationally judge FOX based only upon business considerations and audience numbers. My non-rational judgment, without need for numbers, is FOX failed.
Originally posted by Channain:
"BTW: Firefly ratings back in 2002? About a 2.9 in the adult demo. Which nowadays is considered a success — it’s what CSI and The Mentalist pulled this week. Not that the space-western would likely get the same numbers if on the air today when there’s so much more competition from cable, but it’s interesting to think about."
Makes you wonder why, doesn't it?
The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity", where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:*Pours very *FRESH* wine and passes it to Corncobb*
Originally posted by Corncobb:
Well, I'm intrigued. Not ready to commit to pledging or anything yet, but as soon as Joss or Nathan is on board then so am I.
Okay, it may be a long shot. That doesn't mean it's not worth a try. Nobody ever accomplished anything by not bothering to try.
"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."
Thank you - and Good on you Browncoat.
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