To YOU, is Buffy more about the funny, or more about the serious?
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I'm not into it anymore, but I liked the serious aspects of the show more than the humorous parts.
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Buffy is a great blend of both serious and funny, which is one of the reasons why the show works. If I had to pick it would the funny that keeps me coming back, although it's a close call. It's knowing its ownself well enough to take something really bad, make fun of it and then get all action-y on it.
Jonathon's episode is a stand-out for me. Something to completely throw the viewer off balance. How many other shows could turn a bit part character-with-no-name into one of the most likable characters who gets his own episode and be a season's big bad (sort of).
Oz was always my fave for the funnies. Closely followed by Giles and Willow. But like others have said each character had their moments or lines and again it shows that minor characters are just as important as the major ones.
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Hey Lwaves. Dragging this up from the past - but I just re-watched the episode Dead Man's Party (S3Ep02) in which all the principal characters are having a go at Buffy for running away the previous season, and finally Buffy say's:
"Great anyone else want a go at me -- you over there by the dip!"
And it's Jonathon! Classic!
Guy has the best look on his face too.
....and yes, re-watching Buffy AGAIN!
There's really nothing quite like it on TV anymore. 
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HKCav: I never watched Buffy, but I feel compelled to point out that every vampire after Dracula became a ham-fisted metaphor for Byronic angst and debauchery. Joss is parodying something that in all modern depictions is already a parody of itself. Vampires are impossible to take seriously nowadays, metaphysics or not, and I know of some of the really old and obscure stuff about not sleeping under moonlight and regular iron (not silver).
In conclusion, goddamn vampires.
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I dunno about that, Byte.
If you said every vampire since Interview with a Vampire, I'd agree. Anne Rice ruined the genre and created the template for an entirely folklore free vampire based on blood viruses and nonsensical "science." But before that, vampires were mostly terrifying ghosts that simply had to be destroyed, a la every Hammer Film starring Christopher Lee. Vampires stalked our nightmares, not our singles bars. Frank Langela had a celebrated run on Broadway and then in the 70's remake of Dracula selling the sizzle, but that was still the exception rather than the norm.
But it wasn't just vampire folklore that Joss had absolutely no time for, but demonology and all things ocult/spiritual to boot. If it was just campy vampires, that would be one thing, but his entire metaphysic for the Buffyverse is trash and never even tried to be anything more.
See, in Firefly, even though ol' Joss is an avowed atheist, he gave Book some of the best lines and always kept things properly ambiguous on that score, as they are in life. That gave Firefly the kind of depth Buffy never saw. Imagine if every plot of Firefly hinged on proving what a fool Book was and what a crock of shit religion is. It would be pretty distracting, no?
In Buffy,the entire spiritual realm is his junkyard where he holds his metaphysical demolition derby. I found it crass and juvenile.
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Oh, oversexualized and overidealized vampires had existed long before Anne Rice. The Vampyre (bonus points for the idea coming from and being partially written by Lord Byron) comes to mind, as does Camilla (a particularly vampy - and lesbian - vamp).
And I mean, we're talking about metaphysics. This may be the douchebag in me talking, but metaphysics ain't exactly Principia Mathematica.
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Surely, and Dorian Grey also is a sort of vampire--and, indeed, Bram Stoker's novel was full of sex. That wasn't my point. Only that the "vampire genre" was not a total joke since Dracula. Nothing ham-fisted about Camilla. I do credit Anne Rice with rendering vampirism a joke.
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Hey Lwaves. Dragging this up from the past - but I just re-watched the episode Dead Man's Party (S3Ep02) in which all the principal characters are having a go at Buffy for running away the previous season, and finally Buffy say's:
"Great anyone else want a go at me -- you over there by the dip!"
And it's Jonathon! Classic!
Guy has the best look on his face too.
....and yes, re-watching Buffy AGAIN!
There's really nothing quite like it on TV anymore.
Hey Som. I've seen much older threads dug up recently. Maybe the dead really are rising.
Yeah the look on Jonathon's face is great. I'm sure it's why they kept bringing him back because he played that role perfectly.
Was that his first appearance? I always thought he appeared earlier than that but also remember that the party was his first showing. I may be confused because he has several little scenes before the whole 'killer at school' episode later on which brought him to the front.
I revisited Buffy a about a year and half ago and I keep thinking I should rewatch Angel but there's just too many other shows on the go at the moment. Maybe over the summer.
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Hey L
I think Jonothan first appeared season two. The episode where Spike & co crash the school. If I recall correctly he gets jumped by a woman dressed in police uniform, who in turn I think is looking for Buffy... I'd have to revisit the episode to make sure.
As for re-watching Angel. Go for it.
I'm re-watching season Three of Buffy and when I'm done with that I'll do the cross overs with Angel too.
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