Someone please break Joss' fingers! [spoiler]

POSTED BY: Toadsmoothy
UPDATED: Saturday, January 1, 2011 01:04
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Originally posted by Bytemite:

I don't like vampires, and I like even less that they've been romanticized. Either they're demon possessed or they have no soul or both which can make a formerly nice human a complete sadist, but either way I have issues with the "I love a corpse and it's so beautiful!" thing.

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You talk as if it's a recent thing. Vampires have many incarnations in folklore and fiction, and have been used as a metaphor for sex for a very long time. This is a very limited view.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Good analysis? I see frequent use of cap lock. And also, thoughtful analysis which I disagree with, hence automatically declare bad. Put up your dukes. Let us FIGHT and so forth.

I offer no comment on anything Angel, Buffy, or Dollhouse related, because I have had the good fortune to limit my exposure to these wretched shows.

Regarding Firefly, I dispute that sex has nothing to do with Fes "manning up" and standing up to his mean old man. Inara arrives; Inara and Fess fornicate, but in a totally spiritual way; Inara offers trivial pillow talk, but its totally motivational stuff; suddenly Fess stands up to his mean old man. If Inara is able to help Fess understand anything, sex is as much of the scenario as anything else.

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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
Good analysis? I see frequent use of cap lock. And also, thoughtful analysis which I disagree with, hence automatically declare bad. Put up your dukes. Let us FIGHT and so forth.

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Uh....whatever....

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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I don't know anything about the syringe, but when Mal puts Inara back in her shuttle, it reminds me of when Major Tony Nelson would order Jeannie back in her bottle for being troublesome.

Maybe Inara is a naughty two thousand year old genie.

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All this disecting of the material reminds me of English lit class back in college...

It all ends up being about sex and the room would be divided with men and women yelling at each other.





Anyone going to watch a Muppet Christmas Carol this season?


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You're understanding is limited, and flawed. I must assume that you've never seen an episode of Dollhouse either.

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Well, I can't really comment on Buffy and Angel, but I can comment on this. And I have seen Dollhouse, and my understanding was that Ballard and Echo kept putting it off, hence Ballard's line "You have 30 other people in your head but you're the loneliest person I know."

But to be fair, I kinda hated the whole Echo x Ballard plot anyway, so if I missed subtext I'm not surprised because I honestly thought the whole relationship was exploitive and disgusting. You want an example of Joss Whedon putting sex (and rape!) on a pedestal, look no further.

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Originally posted by Toadsmoothy:
Perhaps I'm just simple-minded and I'm OK with that. I grew up watching Bonanza after all. Today's audiences may need the shock.

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Devil take today's audiences, and today as well. Bonanza is good stuff, and the pinnacle of human achievement is the Andy Griffith Show. I kid you not. I love that show, inasmuch as I am capable of love. Gunsmoke, The Rifleman, The Andy Griffith Show, Leave it to Beaver, Maverick, etc...and I'm not even an old coot yet, and if the Devil grants me the premature death I crave, never shall be one.

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Originally posted by Storymark:

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Originally posted by Bytemite:

A sex poison goes kind of contrary to Inara's Buddhist beliefs and her profession, which views sex as transcendental.

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On the other hand, a sex poison is something that someone like Saffron wouldn't hesitate to use if it gave her a means to an advantageous end.

I always wondered what happened to Saffron (beyond her Guild training)before she became the kind of person she turned out to be.

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