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They took away Christmas . . .

POSTED BY: kef
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Sunday, November 24, 2002 2:40 PM

Speaking of the holidays, how do you think they determine time? Do they still use the earth calendar and time in space? They did mention that each planet uses its own time, but i guess in space you could it determine however you want. Anyway this has been bothering me for a couple of days now. Sorry to hijack the thread. (ok so I'm not really sorry )

-Docebo

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Sunday, November 24, 2002 3:00 PM

That's a good point. I would imagine all time is synchronized to some linear standard, something like Julian Day.

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Sunday, November 24, 2002 6:05 PM

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Originally posted by Docebo:
Speaking of the holidays, how do you think they determine time?


If you do a little amateur astronomy, you can get positively dizzy about time. Everything, absolutely everything, is moving. Mostly moving away. I am perfectly happy for Firefly to employ the fiction of a fixed calendar ...

Inara sits in front of a console, programming appointments.

INARA: Beaumont. City of New Densmia. Arrival October 24th. Departure --


... so that we don't have to get a lengthy physics lesson in each episode.

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Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:25 PM

Sounds like a plan to me. I withdraw my question. Did you hear me Joss? I am saying i do not need to know how they tell time, my brain hurts to much as it is already


-Docebo

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KEF
Monday, November 25, 2002 2:52 AM

That falls under the sci-fi TV/film "just take it for granted for the sake of convenience" rule. Like gravity aboard spaceships.

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Monday, November 25, 2002 7:19 PM

hehe. I personally like the star trek system of "Stardate 144938" or whatever, some random number that makes no sense to me. then I don't have to think about the calendar, I just trust that it exists, and it makes sense to the characters.

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Monday, November 25, 2002 7:39 PM

Hey Nixx...

"My name is SUE! HOW DO YOU DO!?! NOW YOU'RE GONNA DIE!!!"

One of the greatest lyrics ever written.

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Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:43 PM

'I personally like the star trek system of "Stardate 144938" or whatever, some random number that makes no sense'

Actually, in Next Generation anyway, the first digit indicated the century, and the second digit was the season number, so a stardate such as 45332.8 would indicate 24th century, 5th season, about a third of the way through. This system is pretty consistent throughout TNG's run.

Of course, this completely ignores the fact that there are 100 years in a century, not 10. But hey, Trek is famous for inventing poorly thought out "rules" which have to be abandoned later when they fall apart.

Oh well... *goes back to watching Babylon 5, where things actually have consequences*

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Friday, November 29, 2002 8:20 PM

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Originally posted by kef:
Someone pointed out somewhere that River was actually slashing the Blue Sun logo on Jayne's shirt. Apparently it's in the actual script. It's the same reason she tore the labels off the cans in Shindig. (is that the right episode?)

Maybe River was saying that the Blue Sun logo looked better in red- bloodstained- i.e. they have blood on their hands. Think about it.



Perhaps. The chronology was:

Jayne's cleaning his knife and spits on the whetstone. Simon makes a comment about not doing that again, ever. Jayne looks scornfully at Simon and spits on the knife deliberately to finish cleaning it. River gets up to go to the kitchen, and grabs a knife while the conversation continues and Jayne sharpens his knife repetitively. Then she walks back to the table and slashes Jayne across the chest. He backhands her across the face, everyone jumps into action, and she comments "He looks better in red."

Now, here's my take on it. River, as we've seen, has some psychic gift or telepathy that she can't entirely control. She molds many of her thoughts and actions after the ways of others nearby -- as with Badger, in "Shindig". My supposition is that River "read" Jayne while he was cleaning his knife and Simon made the comment. Jayne might've been thinking that he'd like to slash the doctor across the chest in response to his comment, and then say something to the effect of "He looks better in red."

It's a bit of a stretch, but River was looking straight at Jayne when she said that -- not at any of the others. Given the later comment about River feeling everything -- and that she can't not -- it could be that she's not entirely responsible for that action. She read it from Jayne and her mind in its somewhat deluded state thought, "Hey, that's not a bad idea... particularly since he's thinking about hurting my brother."

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KEF
Saturday, November 30, 2002 12:30 AM

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Originally posted by Kurukami:
QUOTE]Originally posted by kef:
Someone pointed out somewhere that River was actually slashing the Blue Sun logo on Jayne's shirt. Apparently it's in the actual script. It's the same reason she tore the labels off the cans in Shindig. (is that the right episode?)

Maybe River was saying that the Blue Sun logo looked better in red- bloodstained- i.e. they have blood on their hands. Think about it.
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Perhaps. The chronology was:

Jayne's cleaning his knife and spits on the whetstone. Simon makes a comment about not doing that again, ever. Jayne looks scornfully at Simon and spits on the knife deliberately to finish cleaning it. River gets up to go to the kitchen, and grabs a knife while the conversation continues and Jayne sharpens his knife repetitively. Then she walks back to the table and slashes Jayne across the chest. He backhands her across the face, everyone jumps into action, and she comments "He looks better in red."

Now, here's my take on it. River, as we've seen, has some psychic gift or telepathy that she can't entirely control. She molds many of her thoughts and actions after the ways of others nearby -- as with Badger, in "Shindig". My supposition is that River "read" Jayne while he was cleaning his knife and Simon made the comment. Jayne might've been thinking that he'd like to slash the doctor across the chest in response to his comment, and then say something to the effect of "He looks better in red."

It's a bit of a stretch, but River was looking straight at Jayne when she said that -- not at any of the others. Given the later comment about River feeling everything -- and that she can't not -- it could be that she's not entirely responsible for that action. She read it from Jayne and her mind in its somewhat deluded state thought, "Hey, that's not a bad idea... particularly since he's thinking about hurting my brother."



That's an interesting idea.

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