A well armed society is a polite one.
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Originally posted by Kirkules:
"In his book, Frontier Violence: Another Look, author W. Eugene Hollon, provides us with these astonishing facts:
In Abilene, Ellsworth, Wichita, Dodge City, and Caldwell, for the years from 1870 to 1885, there were only 45 total homicides. This equates to a rate of approximately 1 murder per 100,000 residents per year.
In Abilene, supposedly one of the wildest of the cow towns, not a single person was killed in 1869 or 1870.
Zooming forward over a century to 2007, a quick look at Uniform Crime Report statistics shows us the following regarding the aforementioned gun control “paradise” cities of the east:
DC – 183 Murders (31 per 100,000 residents)
New York – 494 Murders (6 per 100,000 residents)
Baltimore – 281 Murders (45 per 100,000 residents)
Newark – 104 Murders (37 per 100,000 residents)
It doesn’t take an advanced degree in statistics to see that a return to “wild west” levels of violent crime would be a huge improvement for the residents of these cities.
The truth of the matter is that the “wild west” wasn’t wild at all … not compared to a Saturday night in Newark. "
http://www.examiner.com/x-3253-Minneapolis-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m2
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All that proves is how SHOCKING the murder rate is in some of your cities.
A quick comparison of some of your cities with some European cities in the late 90's.
CITY
MURDERS
PER 100,000
(1) Washington, D.C., USA 69.3
(2) Philadelphia, USA 27.4
(3) Dallas, USA 24.8
(4) Los Angeles, USA 22.8
(5) Chicago, USA 20.5
(6) Phoenix, USA 19.1
(7) Moscow, Russia 18.1
(8) Houston, USA 18.0
(9) New York City, USA 16.8
(10) Helsinki, Finland 12.5
(11) Lisbon, Portugal 9.7
(12) San Diego, USA 8.0
(13) Amsterdam, Netherlands 7.7
(14) Belfast, N.Ireland, UK 4.4
(15) Geneva, Switzerland 4.2
(16) Copenhagen, Denmark 4.0
(17) Berlin, Germany 3.8
(18) Paris, France 3.3
(19) Stockholm, Sweden 3.0
(20) Prague, Czechoslovakia 2.9
Something is happening, n'est ce pas?
When one argument fails for you just move to the next equally lame argument. You probably didn’t even notice that the city at the top of your list has the strictest gun laws of any city in the USA. Strike two try again.
Strike three for you, Kaney. You didn't even notice that gun control laws by city don't seem to play much of a role in gun violence. Otherwise, how could Philly, Dallas, Phoenix, and Houston end up in the top ten?
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This issue is one of the issues where I have been informed by the facts presented by the 'liberals' on the board. I used to believe the same things Wulf and Kirk did.
But when the opposing side presented compelling counter-evidence, I didn't just shut off my brain, switch topics, or lie. I tried to absorb the valid information and enrich my opinions.
Nobody gives a fuck what you think you whiney little liberal sock puppet. The only thing left to determine is who’s little bitch you are. I had my suspicions about you from the very beginning, thanks for confirming them for me. Not that anyone here ever took you seriously in the first place.
Actually, Kane, I think Anthony is quite universally respected here by people on all sides of the political spectrum. Sorry you disagree with his idea of actually taking in data and examining it. That seems to conflict with your calcified world-view, which is incapable of growing, learning, or reason.
And thanks for confirming my suspicions that you are just another sockpuppet of Kaney's. Makes it so much easier to never be tempted to take you seriously...
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.
Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
Kirk is not me, However I agree that Anthonyt is a little bitch. That little twitty-twat is a coward. If he really has been transformed by compelling evidence from a fucking idiot liberal on this board...He is not only a whinny bitch he is also a brainslut. Fuck him.
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:Quote:
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
This issue is one of the issues where I have been informed by the facts presented by the 'liberals' on the board. I used to believe the same things Wulf and Kirk did.
But when the opposing side presented compelling counter-evidence, I didn't just shut off my brain, switch topics, or lie. I tried to absorb the valid information and enrich my opinions.
Nobody gives a fuck what you think you whiney little liberal sock puppet. The only thing left to determine is who’s little bitch you are. I had my suspicions about you from the very beginning, thanks for confirming them for me. Not that anyone here ever took you seriously in the first place.
Hello,
I'll ask you to apologize and return to civil discourse.
--Anthony
Due to the use of Naomi 3.3.2 Beta web filtering, the following people may need to private-message me if they wish to contact me: Auraptor, Kaneman, Piratenews. I apologize for the inconvenience.
Hello,
I think Kirk would be crazy to "apologize and return to a civil discourse". Because.. you asked. who does that? Do you really need an apology from a poster on a board. What a thin skinned little cunt you are. Slithering around here like a limp-wristed rat, with your drivel, shitty world views, constantly lecturing people about civil discourse. Your father must cringe when he sees you walking to his door. Must wonder what he did wrong that you turn out to be some little fucking cunt that can't face people on an anonymous board. How often do people slap you around in the real world? I can see school children kicking you in your ass as they get off the bus. You disgrace of a man. Go cower in a fucking corner you pussy before I say BOO and you piss your trousers........
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Ah, but would you be saying that if he had a gun to your head????Amazingly with a thread a hundred posts long, Kaneman's two contributions have nothing to do with the discussion,rather a personal attack on a poster.God, how bored you must get in your small bedsit, polishing your gun!! It's a pity that you were born with a head that is far too small to accommodate your frontal orifice!It's also astounding that one could become so ugly with only the one head!
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As ever, I recommend a deathmatch to resolve the issue. I propose flails, they seem oddly fitting. Maybe we can form teams and have a sign-up sheet.
I imagine pretty soon Anthony will have more filters than anyone can get around. I wonder why you bother. You're not going to shame him, and he can't hear you anyway. Or maybe that's the reason?
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I imagine pretty soon Anthony will have more filters than anyone can get around. I wonder why you bother. You're not going to shame him, and he can't hear you anyway. Or maybe that's the reason?
That seems to be Kaney's sole reason to exist - the idea that he WILL NOT BE IGNORED. Look at the depths of his desperation: he's inventing new people to be practically on a daily basis at this point, just trying to circumvent the filter of someone he purports to hate, and whose posts he claims to care nothing about.
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
Originally posted by Bytemite:
I imagine pretty soon Anthony will have more filters than anyone can get around. I wonder why you bother. You're not going to shame him, and he can't hear you anyway. Or maybe that's the reason?
That seems to be Kaney's sole reason to exist - the idea that he WILL NOT BE IGNORED. Look at the depths of his desperation: he's inventing new people to be practically on a daily basis at this point, just trying to circumvent the filter of someone he purports to hate, and whose posts he claims to care nothing about.
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.
Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
Wrong on all accounts once again. I just tell it like I see it and could care less if ignored or what you think. I just happen to know that Anthonyt is a cowardly cunt and you are gay......Well, it's true....
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Beautifully said, Anthony, and to the point. You made the point I’ve been trying to make all along, and I see Sig has too.
I still believe in gun ownership and the right to defense, but I try not to prop up my opinion with bullshit anymore. It's clear to me that there's more to a safe society than either giving everyone a gun or taking them all away. There's much more important stuff going on between the ears than there is going on in the hand.
And yes, you’re right about Kirk...shame he can’t grasp that making a valid point causes people to listen; making idiotic ones causes people to skip past his posts. I’ve noticed his dismissal of any post by anyone who isn’t a ‘Murican, which is also interesting. Speaks volumes to his belief that only ‘Muricans have the right to opinions, which goes along with everything else he thinks. Given his vehemence, makes one wonder how afraid he might be of the rest of the world...or xenophobic, I don’t know which.
Anthony DIDN’T make a point, tho’ it’s a valid observation, that American cities present 8 out of the 10 most gun-toting cities in the world. But then, the rest of the world doesn’t count, does it? Might never have occurred to you that DC might have the strictest gun laws because it is the center of our government...however futile those laws may be.
Mike, the mentality you noted is a perfect representation of high RWA thinking; it shouldn’t surprise you in the least. The fact that he and RivKaneZit think alike is another example; rather than refute a point, be as nasty and vulgar as you can. Reminds me of something I read “somewhere”...Quote:
I could go into the roots of that aggression, but I won’t bore you. Basically, it fits. It is the only way they know to act.
they usually avoid anything approaching a fair fight. Instead they aggress when they believe right and might are on their side. “Right” for them means, more than anything else, that their hostility is (in their minds) endorsed by established authority, or supports such authority. “Might” means they have a huge physical advantage over their target, in weaponry say, or in numbers, as in a lynch mob. It’s striking how often authoritarian aggression happens in dark and cowardly ways, in the dark, by cowards who later will do everything they possibly can to avoid responsibility for what they did. Even more striking, the attackers typically feel morally superior to the people they are assaulting in an unfair fight. We shall see research evidence in the next chapter that this self-righteousness plays a huge role in high RWAs’ hostility.
High RWAs tend to feel more endangered in a potentially threatening situation than most people do, and often respond aggressively. ... authoritarian followers find it easier to bully, harass, punish, maim, torture, “eliminate,” “liquidate,” and “exterminate” their victims than most people do.
(For those offended by my use of "high RWA", I respond: I wouldn't use it if it didn't fit so perfectly.)
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of __________________, code name ‘Nike”,
signing off
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It's kind of funny, too, Niki - the ones here who claim to be so "independent" in their thinking are the ones who are utterly and completely locked into a hive mindset, who stick with the RWA collective "groupthink", all while claiming how "individual" they really are.
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Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
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Uh....yup! Sad, ain't it?
It covers that, too, actually: Conformity.
As an aside, I bumped across this one while looking for a quote on the above. See if this is familiar from recent discussions:Quote:
It's really quite good, and pegs the high RWAs among us to a T.
Do you really believe the social dominator who says people should have to earn their success in life? He’s quite willing to let the children of the rich get rich merely through inheritance.
Do you trust him when he says he’s in favor of a level playing field? He’s against programs that would give the disadvantaged a better chance.
Does he really believe the poor can pull themselves up by their bootstraps, or is he content to let them face an uphill struggle that very few can overcome? It doesn’t bother the high RWA that masses of people are poor. That’s their tough luck. And some racial groups are just naturally inferior to others, he says.
By the way, for those not here during the discussion and those who don't like our use of the term, here's a brief explanation:Quote:
Authoritarian followers usually support the established authorities in their society, such as government officials and traditional religious leaders. Such people have historically been the “proper” authorities in life, the time-honored, entitled, customary leaders, and that means a lot to most authoritarians. Psychologically these followers have personalities featuring:
1) a high degree of submission to the established, legitimate authorities in their society;
2) high levels of aggression in the name of their authorities; and
3) a high level of conventionalism.
Because the submission occurs to traditional authority, I call these followers rightwing authoritarians. I’m using the word “right” in one of its earliest meanings, for in Old English “riht”(pronounced “writ”) as an adjective meant lawful, proper, correct, doing what the authorities said. (And when someone did the lawful thing back then, maybe the authorities said, with a John Wayne drawl, “You got that riht, pilgrim!”)
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of __________________, code name ‘Nike”,
signing off
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