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A well armed society is a polite one.

POSTED BY: Wulfenstar
UPDATED: Monday, August 10, 2026 15:59
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PIZMOBEACH

Friday, July 23, 2010 6:06 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Michelle Rhee... I love this chick.

Of course shes getting hammered by the Unions and the PC, liberal elite...

But, shes got teeth, and seems to be standing her ground.

I hope she wins, and DC public schools are the better for it.

Is it raining shoes today??

And she seems to be doing it without a gun.

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WULFENSTAR

Friday, July 23, 2010 6:10 PM

Nice.

In the same post you not only called me childish, you flattered Frem in his crusade.

GOOD JOB.

I know, for a fact, that I have much to learn about manipulation and the bending of will from you and others here.

:)

Except.. I only hope to inspire thought... not bend it to my will.

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

ANTHONYT

Friday, July 23, 2010 6:25 PM

Hello Wulf,

You seem to keep avoiding the essential dilemna of your own comments. The bottom line.

You want to be a Samurai or Wyatt Earp. You think the world worked better when these things existed.

But neither the Samurai nor Wyatt Earp were the things you imagine them to be.

Aspiring to become these things, and live in their world, speaks about you.

Maybe you should take a hard look about what you're saying, and even more, about what you are thinking.

Who do you want to be? What do you really believe in?

If this is it, then yes, I consider it immature. I often don't like Frem's use of you, nor his occasional remarks on tire irons or hangings. I understand he's working from a place of frustration and disappointment, but I don't think he's right to say these things.

On the other hand, your only response to his criticisms is to work hard to make his opinions of you ring true.

If you are better than that... Then be better than that.

--Anthony

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WULFENSTAR

Friday, July 23, 2010 6:40 PM

Heh. Shades of gray Ant,... layers.

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

NIKI2

Friday, July 23, 2010 6:41 PM

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But the honorable hero doesn't die in this kind of thing! Even if he's vastly out of his league, and not even using his weapon of choice (or even a weapon he has any idea how to use), the universe will bend its knee to make sure that the right, good outcome happens.

You mean like Mal in Shindig?

What I got is that Wulf agrees an armed society isn't a polite society, that he put up the thread to see what the responses would be.

However, I disagree about the Samurai and Wild West necessarily making a better society, and they CERTAINLY didn't contribute to a more "polite" society

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WULFENSTAR

Friday, July 23, 2010 6:58 PM

Never said they made a BETTER society... only that they had positives to them.

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

KIRKULES

Friday, July 23, 2010 7:00 PM

The main reason an armed society is polite is because most people will do the right thing given the power to do so. If a scumbag tries to rob a group of people with a gun and everyone but the criminal is unarmed the outcome is almost always positive for the bad guy. An armed thug might get away with robbing a group of armed people if that group believes that loss of money is not worth the taking of life. If on the other hand the robber resorts to violence the situation will always end badly for him. Good people with guns are no threat to anyone, but their presence is a healthy deterrent of crime. The reason people become more polite is because they become less afraid. Knowing that wherever they go the majority of those around them are like minded and armed.

WULFENSTAR

Friday, July 23, 2010 7:04 PM

Kirk for the WIN... in this otherwise strange and threadjacked...... thread.

"Being called a racist by a Liberal is a badge of honor."

BYTEMITE

Friday, July 23, 2010 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
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But the honorable hero doesn't die in this kind of thing! Even if he's vastly out of his league, and not even using his weapon of choice (or even a weapon he has any idea how to use), the universe will bend its knee to make sure that the right, good outcome happens.
You mean like Mal in Shindig?

I liked Shindig, so no offense to anyone, but that was seriously the worst and most contrived sword fight and ending ever.

The only redeeming factor was the "mercy is the mark of a great man" boast, and subsequent stabbing.

ANTHONYT

Friday, July 23, 2010 8:10 PM

Hello,

"The reason people become more polite is because they become less afraid."

I agree that people become more polite when they are less afraid, but I don't think that implies a connection to being armed.

"If on the other hand the robber resorts to violence the situation will always end badly for him."

I wish this was true, but it's not. When the good guys are armed, it gives them the ability to respond, but it does not assure a positive outcome.

We need to look harder at polite societies if we are striving towards a polite society.

We need to look harder at safe societies if we are striving towards a safe society.

Arms by themselves neither make people polite nor safe. Not any more than giving everyone a hammer will result in a construction boom. Suggesting that everyone should be armed on the premise that arming everyone will cure an ill of society is misguided. I agree that everyone should have the tool, but I can make no predictions or guarantees about what they will do with it. Education and the general welfare will impact society more than hot lead.

"Never said they made a BETTER society... only that they had positives to them."

Wulf, why did you single out these societies for having 'positives' in them? What positives do you see in Feudal Japan and the period of Western expansion that you don't see in contemporary societies?

--Anthony

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