Terminator Triage: rate the termination

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, August 6, 2010 22:25
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CHRISISALL

Saturday, July 17, 2010 1:58 AM

Out of ten:

Terminator- 9.5

Terminator 2- 9

Terminator 3- 4

Terminator Salvation: The Machinima Series- 5.5

Terminator: Salvation- 7

Terminator: TSCC- 7.5 (It'd be much higher if FOX didn't do the obligatory cancellation on a cliff-hanger during a good show)

So, did I acquire the targets correctly?

The laughing Chrisisall

ECGORDON

Saturday, July 17, 2010 5:29 PM

The Machinima series is the only one I haven't seen, and I'm probably a more strict grader than you. I would reduce the numbers on each of those by at least 1, maybe a bit more for Salvation and a bit less for TSCC.

LWAVES

Saturday, July 17, 2010 6:28 PM

Out of ten:

Terminator - 9 - A fantastic film but it is showing it's age a bit these days FX wise. Not really the films fault, just the way it is.

Terminator 2 - 9 - A fantastic sequel with a couple of problems like Sarah being a bit too gung ho and having a Terminator doing stupid things like lifting it's leg etc.

Terminator 3 - 2 - It gets a two because it has Arnie and it's called Terminator. That's it.

Terminator: Salvation - 5.5 - Just because of the continuity nods to the other films.

Terminator: TSCC - 8 - Being cancelled isn't a reason to mark down what we have IMO. It had problems but it also showed so much potential and was heading in an intriguing direction.

I also haven't seen Terminator Salvation: The Machinima Series so I can't rate that.

"The greatest invention ever is not the wheel. It's the second wheel." - Rich Hall

HEDGEHOG

Saturday, July 17, 2010 8:14 PM

Terminator- 9.9:I love the way it shows the war in the future :D,and besides I love beginnings of the saga more then endings :p

Terminator 2- 9: who could forget the "liquid man" and Arnie gets to talk more its still one of the top movies of all times on IMDB

Terminator 3- 3: didnt even watch the whole thing ,its not good enough for Terminator saga (my opinion,again didnt watch the whole movie so cant really judge)

Terminator Salvation: The Machinima Series- N/A didnt watch

Terminator: Salvation- 7: good movie but they still need to work more to reach old glory

Terminator: TSCC- 9:Love the show,huge fan.Sarah got bit sexier :D the terminator is cool and funny (cameron)

STORYMARK

Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:11 PM

Terminator - 8 - Classic flick that helped define the action/sci-fi genre.

T2 - 9 - A bit of a re-tred plot wise of the first, but amped things up to an awesome degree.

T3 - 6 - Again, a re-tread plot-wise, and some unnecessary cheesy humor, but it advances the story well enough, and includes an ending darker than most Hollywood films have the balls for.

Terminator Salvation - 5 - Some good ideas and cool action set-pieces lost in a mix of hole-ridden plotting a focus on spectacle over action. The design of the post Judgment Day world wasn't consistent with the prior films either, which bothered me.

And after seeing the movie, I had no interest in the Machima at all.

TSCC - 6 - Had some good stuff, but lost me a bit by abandoning plot lines after season 1, and then I got bored and stopped watching during the 3-dots phase of season 2.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CHRISISALL

Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:

T3 - 6 - Again, a re-tread plot-wise, and some unnecessary cheesy humor, but it advances the story well enough, and includes an ending darker than most Hollywood films have the balls for.

"Advances the story"?
Balls-y John turns into a wimp, Mom is dead, and Arnie shows up AGAIN?????
Crap.
Story, you make me doubt your integrity here...

The laughing Chrisisall

STORYMARK

Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

"Advances the story"?
Balls-y John turns into a wimp, Mom is dead, and Arnie shows up AGAIN?????
Crap.
Story, you make me doubt your integrity here...

You should put more thought into your response. His character changing (in a psychologically plausible way) and his mother dying is, by definition, advancing the plot. Arnie being back was obviously a matter of branding, but even then it had specific grounding in the plot, both in why that particular Terminator was sent back, and more directly, how the resistance obtained him and what that implied for the plot of the entire series (John having been killed and all). And then there's the ending, which brought the story forward to a point of no return plot wise, with Judgment Day finally happening (unless maybe they go back in time again...to do totally original stuff like continue to run from robots in LA with a good robot protecting them....that wouldn't be retreading at all.....).

Now, you may not like how the story was developed, which is your prerogative - note I didn't exactly give it a glowing score myself. But to insist it doesn't, while actually listing some of the ways in which it does.... you usually have a better game.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CHRISISALL

Sunday, July 18, 2010 5:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:

Now, you may not like how the story was developed, which is your prerogative. But to insist it doesn't, while actually listing some of the ways in which it does.... you usually have a better game.

Point taken.
Okay, I didn't *like* that the movie sucked.

Seriously, I guess I just had a real problem with John's character, the actor that portrayed him, and Arnie's crappy sunglasses...

The laughing Chrisisall

JONGSSTRAW

Monday, July 19, 2010 1:16 PM

T1 - 9
T2 - 8
T3 - 7
T4 - n/a
TSCC - 6

ZEEK

Monday, July 19, 2010 1:38 PM

Terminator- 4 cheesy B movie that for some reason gets way to much credit.

Terminator 2- 9 pretty much a classic. Great action. Outstanding effects for the time. Real sense of suspense through the whole movie.

Terminator 3- 5 good action. Some funny lines. No real emotion.

Terminator Salvation: The Machinima Series- ? haven't seen it.

Terminator: Salvation- 4 there wasn't even great action in this movie. The hybrid dude didn't have the emotional impact on me that I'm sure they were hoping for. Plus the redhead hottie was pregnant! wtf were they thinking?

Terminator: TSCC- 3 the concept seemed like it had big potential. They blundered the whole thing though. They turned it into terminator of the week and even a mini-arch of "sarah's crazy" that was about the dullest thing I've seen on TV. The writers didn't even bother to understand the basics of the things they wrote about. I hope they bury this stinker and salt the Earth, because if they just drop it from all continuity that will be better for the franchise (which is nearly dead at this point anyway...one good movie can't hold up all this garbage)

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