Terminator Triage: rate the termination

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, August 6, 2010 22:25
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STORYMARK

Monday, July 19, 2010 3:34 PM

Nice to see I'm not the only one who thought TS was go se.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CHRISISALL

Monday, July 19, 2010 5:39 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Nice to see I'm not the only one who thought TS was go se.

As a real *movie* I'd be forced to agree.
But as a passable piece of crap popcorn time waster, I thought it was pretty entertaining.

The laughing Chrisisall

STORYMARK

Monday, July 19, 2010 5:43 PM

It's the "piece of crap" part that tunes me out. Popcorn movies can be well made, this one wasn't.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CHRISISALL

Monday, July 19, 2010 5:47 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
It's the "piece of crap" part that tunes me out. Popcorn movies can be well made, this one wasn't.

Terminator 3 was certainly a much better put together flick, but I ended up not liking it... at least 4 tried to give us something new, it gets points for that from me.

The laughing Chrisisall

STORYMARK

Monday, July 19, 2010 6:05 PM

In it's finished form, I don't see it offering all that much that's new, since everything is back to status quo (for that world) in the end. Ultimately, the movie didn't really give us any info that we didn't have after watching the original (and the new things there don't gel with the other films, or even internally in many cases).

Now, had the kept the original ending, at least that would have taken things in a new direction. But in the end, it was essentially a prequel, which added nothing to the overall story.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CHRISISALL

Monday, July 19, 2010 6:08 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
But in the end, it was essentially a prequel, which added nothing to the overall story.

Agreed.

At least I can say the score was excellent.

The laughing Chrisisall

ZEEK

Monday, July 19, 2010 8:55 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
In it's finished form, I don't see it offering all that much that's new, since everything is back to status quo (for that world) in the end. Ultimately, the movie didn't really give us any info that we didn't have after watching the original (and the new things there don't gel with the other films, or even internally in many cases).

Now, had the kept the original ending, at least that would have taken things in a new direction. But in the end, it was essentially a prequel, which added nothing to the overall story.

From what I heard about the original ending if they really went with that I would have be super pissed. They already didn't offer up the movie I wanted to see. Then if they took the other movie out of the realm of possibility entirely then I'd really be up in arms.

What I really don't like is movies that should be building up to a big finale, but when you think about it the "big event" wasn't all that important. That's TS for me. Assuming John doesn't go off and die then what was the big deal if they attacked the machine base or not? It was just some little outpost for the machines. Nothing was really accomplished. It was just a tiny battle in a war that hadn't really begun. Why should I care?

STORYMARK

Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:32 AM

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Originally posted by Zeek:

From what I heard about the original ending if they really went with that I would have be super pissed.
They already didn't offer up the movie I wanted to see. Then if they took the other movie out of the realm of possibility entirely then I'd really be up in arms.

In a movie about time traveling cyborgs.... you HADN'T hit that point yet??? I don't think it would have been any more implausible than what they've done throughout the rest of the series.

I liked the original ending specifically because it would have pissed people off (well, that and it would have actually made thematic sense in terms of what the rest of the movie, even the title, was building to). It would have taken the gloves off, no more constantly creeping toward a plot point we already know, and have allowed for some more original storytelling.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

ZEEK

Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:36 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
In a movie about time traveling cyborgs.... you HADN'T hit that point yet??? I don't think it would have been any more implausible than what they've done throughout the rest of the series.

I liked the original ending specifically because it would have pissed people off (well, that and it would have actually made thematic sense in terms of what the rest of the movie, even the title, was building to). It would have taken the gloves off, no more constantly creeping toward a plot point we already know, and have allowed for some more original storytelling.

I'm actually all for them changing where things are headed, but they have to keep the main character of the series around.

My own idea for where the war should have gone is that John is not the John Connor who turned the tide of the war. The real John Connor had a Dad from the normal timeline. However, that events of the first terminator changed things. Sarah still named her son John but he had a different father and upbringing. The movies should deal with John coming to terms with the fact that he's not the savior. Humanity should be on the brink of extinction and there should be a real sense of fear that the terminators could win. John's goal then would be to find a way to restore the original timeline. Find the time machine and go back to prevent the events of the original movie.

BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:45 PM

Out of ten:

Terminator- 9.7 For it's time it was cutting edge and the concept really sucked me in.

Terminator 2- 9.1 While the special effects were excellent, the story good, and a worthy sequel Sarah came across as way too hard to me especially in comparison to the way she is portrayed in the tv series. The silly things that John made the terminator do and say just never jived with me either so it took away from the movie a bit for me.

Terminator 3- 5 I thought John was portrayed as way too weak for someone his age that was raised by Sarah Connor to survive Judgement Day. Just not well written at all. The story itself seemed weak too. They could have done much more with it.

Terminator Salvation: The Machinima Series- 6 Thought it was fairly well done as far as animation goes, but the story could have been far better.

Terminator: Salvation- 6 Though I liked Bale as John, and the twist on how he came to be in overall command of the Resistance, I thought Marcus stole the spotlight, which took away from the film for me since John is supposed to be the pivotal character, not Marcus. The script was okay, but like others above it could have been so much better with the right writer.

Terminator: TSCC- 7.5 (I agree with your ranking on this one Chris and your reasoning for it. Though there were some weak episodes, and the story for getting them advanced in time to modern day and past Sarah's death by cancer, overall the series was good. The cancellation and cliffhanger ending really left me with a bad taste in my mouth too and thus the rating.

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