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'Wonder Woman' puts on pants

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CYBERSNARK

Thursday, July 1, 2010 2:53 PM

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Originally posted by Zeek:
There are very few super heroes I can think of with practical outfits.

The Bat-family is pretty good, usually involving kevlar, armoured plate, and tough fabrics. I'm especially fond of Cassie Cain's homemade Batgirl costume (black jeans, boots, black long-sleeved T-shirt with a bat-symbol drawn on in dye, black gloves, hand-stitched mask and cape, and a toolbelt), but Stephanie's current high-tech version is also cool for having visible armour/padding.

That's actually more revealing than her old Spoiler costume; that one covered her completely (full cloth mask)

Then of course, there's Superboy and Wondergirl, who kicked off the whole "jeans and T-shirt" fad (though they're invulnerable, so they don't really need armour).

There's also the current Blue Beetle, who wears actual armour.

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RAHLMACLAREN

Thursday, July 1, 2010 4:30 PM

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Originally posted by boris:
Tights are not pants

Even better!

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BROWNCOAT1

Thursday, July 1, 2010 6:35 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I like it. Her old outfit was a bit on the ridiculous side. And they're priming the audience for a movie - and they're not likely to do the old outfit in a movie.

Plus, it's Joe Straczynski and Jim Lee behind the new suit, and I'm a fan of both.

Yes, but how are you with total retcon of the character? That's what JMS is working on. She will be taken out of the DCU continuity will have no past, no connection to the Justice League, any of the DC heroes, and will be a new fledgling hero just discovering her powers.

Horrible I say!

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Originally posted by RahlMaclaren:

Oooo, tightpants!

No major complaints. I'd add more color to the pants, though. Maybe with some large faded stars.

Lame. Jackets with rolled up sleeves went out in the 90s. Okay, lose the jacket and it wouldn't be that bad, but it is NOT the iconic costume she's always worn. That costume was designed to honor the nation that Wonder Woman was being sent to be an emissary to. Do they revamp the iconic costumes of Superman, Batman or the Flash? No. They may tinker with minor things, but they remain unchanged.

Oh, and when she hits people they will be branded with a "W" now. WTF?!? Is she the Phantom now? Zorro?

Ugh. I'll pass.

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STORYMARK

Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:42 PM

The full on retcon seems a bit overboard, but I don't read the monthlies anyway, and either the story will be good enough to justify running with it, or it'll bomb and they'll re-retcon (de-retcon??) it right back out the door.

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Do they revamp the iconic costumes of Superman, Batman or the Flash? No. They may tinker with minor things, but they remain unchanged.

Well, yeah, they have. Superman Blue/Red. Armored Azrael/Batman (and many variations to the Bat-suit). And a key element is that those characters are wearing at least semi-practical outfits, and not one just a smidge away from lingerie.

Having a WW that looks like someone bedazzled a Baywatch costume isn't going to do much to give the character credibility in the modern age.

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CYBERSNARK

Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:43 PM

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Do they revamp the iconic costumes of Superman, Batman or the Flash? No.

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STORYMARK

Thursday, July 1, 2010 8:49 PM

Ah, I beat you with the mention, but you one-upped me with the visual.

So I'll continue:

And while the Superman and Batman redesigns didn't fly, this is the original Flash costume:

The seemed to do okay by changing his.

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CAVALIER

Thursday, July 1, 2010 9:07 PM

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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Do they revamp the iconic costumes of Superman

As I recall, they killed him off at one point.

And now he is all better. It's just a marketing gimmick.

And this too shall pass...

MSA

Thursday, July 1, 2010 9:50 PM

I just want to know how putting pants ON somehow makes her look trampy

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ATILLA

Thursday, July 1, 2010 9:52 PM

Seem clear that the outfit was meant for Morena...

PEULSAR5

Thursday, July 1, 2010 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by MsA:
I just want to know how putting pants ON somehow makes her look trampy

It's fuzzy-minded liberal thinking like that that gets you eaten.

EXCELLENT point, it doesn't. This is probably being done to draw attention to the character to drum up talk for a movie. I don't mind the costume, but the retcon stuff does bug me. I don't think messing with the origin of one of DC's "Big Three" (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman) is a good idea. These were the three characters that kept the company afloat during the lean years of the 40s and 50s when comics lost popularity or just got strange (read some Batmans from the late 50s) and most of the minor characters were just guests or back up stories. When the comic book resurgance began in the 60s, most of the dc characters got completely redone-The Flash went from Jay Garrack to Barry Allen, Green Lantern became Hal Jordan etc. But Superman was always the strange visitor from Krypton raised by the Kents, Batman was the masked playboy avenging his parents, and Wonder Woman was always the amazon princess sent to America. Minor details would change after the first Crisis (the only good one in my opinion) but the rest remained the same. As been pointed out earlier in the thread, they sometimes make radical changes for a particular storyline that might last as long as a year, but eventually they loop back around to their roots.