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growing up with a bipolar parent

POSTED BY: boris
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 14:32
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Monday, June 7, 2010 2:31 PM

Just had a very long heartfelt with my little brother on skype...we could see each other but I couldn't hear him so I had to type responses...its taken the poor bugger the best part of 39 years to come to terms with the fact that we had a crappy childhood because our mother is an untreated bipolar person and our dad couldn't protect us from it. He's also realised she aint gonna change unless she takes the steps...which is unlikely as she's so far buried into her woe it's become comfortable for her down there. I've kept trying to urge him to let things go and just get on with his life, but something has always held him back from achieving his dreams...now I find out its because my brother Mr Uber loved by everyone(and in a good way because he's funny and open minded and quite charming when he's not irritating me) has been trying to fit in his whole life and realised its overrated...He asked me to explain it to him. I told him the idea of fitting in is a fallacy...what you want is a sense of belonging when you find people you connect with on a healthy level. trying to fit in just leads to despair.

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 8:26 PM

Oh my; you and your brother have my deepest sympathy. I'm bipolar...but "Bipolar II", the milder and slightly different kind, and it's difficult enough these days with meds and therapy, I can't imagine what you went through growing up with an untreated parent.

My mother was posthumously diagnosed as bipolar and my dad as depressive, so I know where my genes come from, now. But I wasn't dx'd until I was 48 (I'm 61 now), so I, too, spent my whole life trying to fit in (for a different reason of course) and somehow knowing I was "different". I look back now and all the signs were there, but because my behavior wasn't severe enough, nobody ever knew. My life would have been so different if I'd only known when younger!

Have you or your brother ever been checked? We can have genes from any kind of mental illness and they can manifest as any other (with exceptions), so you never know where it will pop up or what manifestation it will be. We aren't "born bipolar", you probably know by now; we're born with a gene that gives us a "predisposition" to manifest, which is brought on most often by childhood trauma, or later in life by a physical cause or other trauma.

Please do tell him, as you already have, that there's no such thing as "normal", and fitting in is a futile effort which only stunts your chance at a good quality of life. On the site I run for mental health, we refuse to call them "normies" (a term often used by those with diagnoses); for me they're GUMs, the "great undiagnosed masses". I think if psychiatry and science continue (long after my death!) they'll determine that EVERYONE has some sort of mental issue that can be given a "name". As it is, we're only diagnosed as mentally ill if our symptoms "severely affect our ability to function", and most people I know have a "touch" of this or that. It's nothing to even think about unless it severely affects one's life.

I can't imagine the things you must have gone through. Yes, back then little was known, so unless someone was hospitalized or incarcerated, and sometimes not even then, did they get help. My mother never knew--nor did I know about her problem, but I have more than enough memories of my childhood to be able to get just a glimpse of what you must have endured.

The mood swings are hard enough for a child to deal with, especially not knowing why--and far too many children grow up thinking there's something bad or wrong with them as a result of their parent's difficulties. It's a shame it took so long to understand mental illness, and even now medication is iffy and there is no physical "test" for it.

I can tell you that growing up with a mentally-ill parent, especially bipolar or schiz--ends up with the child carrying around many "messages" they internalized as a child because they couldn't understand otherwise which may haunt them the rest of their lives. I found great help in therapy, especially EMDR, in being able to go back, hear those messages from an adult viewpoint, and see that it was about my MOTHER's issues, not about me at all. I hope your brother can come to that realization, because I would bet his desire to fit in is at least partly the result of things he's not aware of which he internalized at a young age.

No, you're right; the chances of your mother ever getting treatment are next to nil. I hated my mother for years, until in her old age she came to live with us and one day the mask slipped off and I saw the anger underneath and how screwed-up her mind could be, and it freed me. I realized in time that trying to help her would do her more harm than good; as people like that get older, even if one COULD make them face reality, I think it would be dangerous to do so. If faced with all the things she had done, my mother might well have been harmed irreparably, and she was so old by then, it was easy to pity her.

You gave him excellent advice; if I were to give you any, it would be to accept him (as you already have) and repeat that message from time to time. Someti

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 3:35 AM

Wow, my mother was also diagnosed with bipolar disorder when I was about 14. My parents have been divorced since I was 12. So I understand where you are coming from. I actually haven't seen my mother since last summer. She never calls me anymore and I don't even know what her number is right now or where she is living...it is hard sometimes. I'm 18 now so I've only been dealing with these problems for 4 years ( well there has always been issues. I just never picked up on them until now) but being the adolescent years I really needed a mother then. It always seemed like me and my sisters were the mothers to her. This is a really hard thing to grow up with, but in a way it makes you a stronger person. It also made me and my sisters so much closer because we had to rely on each other most of the time.

Also, I sometimes fear I may be bipolar too...I do have the depression moments for sure, but I have yet to have a manic episode of any kind and I am afraid of that happening sometimes...

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 4:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tatertot:
I sometimes fear I may be bipolar too...I do have the depression moments for sure, but I have yet to have a manic episode of any kind and I am afraid of that happening sometimes...

If it hasn't occurred yet, don't worry.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 4:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tatertot:
I sometimes fear I may be bipolar too...I do have the depression moments for sure, but I have yet to have a manic episode of any kind and I am afraid of that happening sometimes...

If it hasn't occurred yet, don't worry.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 4:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tatertot:
I sometimes fear I may be bipolar too...I do have the depression moments for sure, but I have yet to have a manic episode of any kind and I am afraid of that happening sometimes...

If it hasn't occurred yet, don't worry.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 4:24 AM

Is there an echo in here?

Mike

On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. --Auraptor

This vile and revolting malice - this is their true colors, always has been, you're just seeing it without the mask of justifications and excuses they hide it behind, is all. Make sure to remember it once they put the mask back on. --Fremdfirma

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 11:15 AM

Hey tatertot. I understand you. You are right you do become stronger and I'm sure that you probably have your head screwed on better than most people your age.I'm fourty now but my childhood and teenage years were difficult. You and your sisters are really lucky to have each other. I was lucky to have strong friendships and friends parents to "mother" me when my own mum wasn't available...which was most of the time. My brother and I have only become closer since he had a daughter...also I agree with Chrisisall. If you haven't had a manic episode it's not likely. you will probably have times when you go through depression It can happen to all of us when we go through really hard times...the important thing is not to go it alone when you are down. Be around people who love you.

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Wednesday, June 9, 2010 11:43 AM

Niki 2 Thankyou...what you said resonated and is pretty much what I said to my brother during a conversation I've been encouraging him to initiate for a long time (though typically for us there was a comical aspect to it due to the typing versus talking).I did get myself checked years ago I'm not bi polar which is a relief as I have Tourettes and am mildly autistic and I think that's enough to chew.I think dealing with Mum kind of dragged me into the real world and I some how went from being the most dysfunctional member of our family to the strongest. I have been back living with my folks for the last 4 years and mum's stuff just rolls of me now though sometimes I get "feelings flashbacks". As for my brother, he's been in therapy for about 18 months (his wife encouraged him after she and I had a few discussions) I feel he's finally starting to find peace...and yeah like you he has the milder form of BiPolar. Therapy has really helped him with that. I also have a dear friend with BipolarI but she manages it so well. she's really helped me come to terms with things...It sounds like you have used your experience to help others so again heartfelt thanks for your words :-)

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