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Isreal attacks Turkish aid convoy.

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Saturday, June 5, 2010 2:46 AM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Said it before, will say it again..

The Jews learned very well from the Nazis.



What the hell does that even mean ? Seriously.

Did the gypsies learn as well ? What about the homosexuals ? Or the disabled ? Did they learn as well, or did the Jews simply grasp being gassed, shot, experimented on and shoved into ovens far better than the rest ?

I've heard this said by others, and just wanted to clarify as to what you mean by such a statement.





** ANYONE ** who thinks the Fed Gov't has done " all it possibly can " in response the Gulf Coast oil disaster, or who thinks Obama isn't lying to us all - I have no use for you. You deserve all the animosity and any vulgar "tone" directed your way. ( Anthony , that includes you, buddy. Sorry )

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Sunday, June 6, 2010 2:12 AM

It's a basically insane statement, as far as I'm concerned. But it doesn't surprise me.

They're at it again, by the way:

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For the second time this week, Israeli naval commandos seized aid headed for the Gaza Strip, but Saturday's action had a peaceful ending.

The Israeli military said it boarded the Irish-owned MV Rachel Corrie 22 miles (35 kilometers) off the Gaza coast with the compliance of the crew. The cargo ship loaded with humanitarian aid had been heading for Gaza on Saturday in defiance of an Israeli blockade.

Israel said its naval blockade is in place to stop weaponry from reaching militants in Gaza intent on attacking Israel. But many people are incensed that the three-year blockade -- imposed after Hamas took over Gaza -- has deepened poverty in the Palestinian territory. According to the United Nations, 80 percent of Gaza's population depends on food aid.

The voyage of the Rachel Corrie on the heels of the raid put the international community on edge until the events unfolded peacefully on Saturday.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel "used the exact same procedure" aboard the Rachel Corrie as it did on the Mavi Marmara ship, where the raid occurred.

"Today we saw the difference between a sail of peace activists, with whom we don't agree but honor their right to express a different opinion, and a hate sail organized by terrorism-supporting violent extremists," he said.

Free Gaza Movement spokeswoman Mary Hughes sharply criticized Israel's seizure of the ship.

"This is unacceptable to be happening in international waters," she said.

The ship was taken to Ashdod, Israel, where its cargo will be offloaded and screened. People on board will be processed by immigration officials and flown to their countries of origin as soon as possible, Israel said.

As the ship was proceeding to Gaza, the Israeli military said it sent several radio transmissions telling the vessel to change its course before boarding the ship.

A crew member on board the Rachel Corrie who spoke to CNN earlier Saturday said three Israeli ships had been following.

Activists on the ship had said they would surrender peacefully if Israeli forces boarded the boat.

Israel had offered to deliver the aid to Gaza, but passengers rejected the offer, according to a statement from Michael Martin, Ireland's minister for foreign affairs.

Organizers say the ship was carrying 550 tons of cement to help rebuild schools, homes and other buildings destroyed in Gaza.

Irish Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mairead Maguire, who was aboard the ship, said Friday that the Rachel Corrie was also carrying "tons" of writing materials donated by Norway, pharmaceuticals and medical equipment -- including wheelchairs donated by Scotland -- and toys.

"If, as is their stated intention, the Israeli government intercepts the Rachel Corrie, the government demands that it demonstrate every restraint," said Martin. He called on Israel to lift its blockade.

Monday's violence continues to spark official and grassroots rage in governments and streets inside and outside the Middle East, and it has led to even further deterioration of the relationship between Israel and Turkey, the one-time close allies who have grown apart over the Gaza crisis.

In Istanbul, Turkey's largest city, thousands took to the streets to protest Israel's actions in Gaza. Protests were also staged in London, England, and Paris, France.

At the United Nations, the Security Council called for an inquiry into the flotilla raid, and the Human Rights Council voted for a probe, but Israel said it alone -- and not an international entity -- should be investigating.

The MV Rachel Corrie was named for a 23-year-old American woman who was killed in Gaza in 2003 while attempting to keep IDF forces from bulldozing the home of a Palestinian.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/06/05/gaza.flotilla/index.html?hpt
=T2


I'm getting really, really sick of these assholes, and really, really ashamed of o

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Sunday, June 6, 2010 2:53 PM


Niki, although Wulf is a bonehead, that one was an observation many folk have made, that Israels conduct toward Palestine is eerily similar to Germanys toward Poland, at one time, much like an abused child unknowingly emulating that abuse upon their own children, you know ?

As for the aid shipments being seized by Israel - well, as often as they've been caught out dumping the supplies into the sea, burning them, or just outright stealing them, there's a certain reluctance to actually trust them to deliver any of it to Palestine, that being one reason the activists are being so hardnosed about it.

Do you remember what Nigeria did to Biafra ?

Most younger folk don't, I wouldn't either save that the original collective of people who founded Eagle/A-1, who had just come out of some involvement in that, the Biafran "air force" consisted of armed civvie junk and a pair of A-26 Invaders which didn't last out the year, along with whatever mercs they could find willing to fly anything they could get their hands on at almost suicidal odds in order to suppress Nigerian air cover so they could get food supplies in, and they still lost a damned lot of those planes.

It takes a special kind of crazy bastard to fly a DC-3 full of food and medical supplies into a place like that, at least, more than once, and two of the guys who did it were the founders of Eagle/A-1, who personally witnessed the horrors of a starvation blockade from point blank range.

That's also where doctors without borders came from, if I recall correctly, but anyhow, knowing and working closely with folks who saw that kind of thing happen makes me a special kind of hateful to those who would practice it - how soon the bitter lessons of history are forgotten, neh ?

-Frem

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Sunday, June 6, 2010 2:57 PM

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I'm getting really, really sick of these assholes, ...



Yeah, me to. Those Islamic nut jobs are a blight on humanity.







** ANYONE ** who thinks the Fed Gov't has done " all it possibly can " in response the Gulf Coast oil disaster, or who thinks Obama isn't lying to us all - I have no use for you. You deserve all the animosity and any vulgar "tone" directed your way. ( Anthony , that includes you, buddy. Sorry )

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Sunday, June 6, 2010 5:10 PM

I don't think it has anything to do with the Nazis. Do we really believe the Nazis dreamed it up all on their own? I think societies were doing similar things throughout history; I just think the Jew/Nazi comparison is just too easy and people jump to it.


Hippie Operative Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


To our President: “Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ...Raptor

To Anthony, unquestionably the most civil person on this forum: “Go fuck yourself. On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. ...Raptor

To Frem: “You miserable piece of shit.” ...Raptor

To Niki: “My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike.....Well, it's true......if you had a soul.” ...Raptor

...Remember, remember, the ugliest member...

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Sunday, June 6, 2010 9:54 PM


Well, one reason I don't mind that comparison being out there so much, ponder this...

Eighty years from now, Palestine being all paranoid and doin that shit to some other country ?

We gotta break the chain of abuse before it strangles us all.

-F

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Sunday, June 6, 2010 10:27 PM

I actually dig the inevitable Israeli/Nazi analogies. When they're brought up, often with an utterly affected air of courage and moral clarity, you know the person you're talking to A) has no ideas and B) is a stranger to proportion.

Brilliant work guys.

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Monday, June 7, 2010 4:00 AM

Mincing: Word!


Hippie Operative Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


To our President: “Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ...Raptor

To Anthony, unquestionably the most civil person on this forum: “Go fuck yourself. On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. ...Raptor

To Frem: “You miserable piece of shit.” ...Raptor

To Niki: “My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike.....Well, it's true......if you had a soul.” ...Raptor

...Remember, remember, the ugliest member...

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