I thought the Left was for FAIRNESS. Guess not.
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Sunday, November 30, 2025 19:35
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Lordy, Crappy, you just keep GIVING us the amunition. Let's see:Quote:
Lie. People who come from ANYWHERE must go through those things to become citizens, be born here, or marry an American. Anyone else, from anywhere else, is illegal. So:
They must go through the system. Filing, paying, studying for that citizens exam.... taking YEARS of committed effort and dedication to achieve a well deserved goal of becoming a full fledged citizen of the United States of America.Quote:
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Quit making up shit. Either show some evidence or admit you can't.Quote:
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And that's the sum total of your argument. You can't offer up any substantive, reasonable reply, other than dole out insults and dismissive, personal comments.Quote:
You made NO effort to comprehend the true facts of attaining citizenship, you just assumed and ran with it.
I just would rather you do less projecting onto others and try comprehending more.
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Proof of the track record was shown, with quotes of the more egregious examples (nobody is going to take the time to remember ALL your various fabrications, etc.), so to ask for "daily" examples is disingenuous. Also:
You just made that up. Cite one example of how I DAILY fabricate, distort anything, or apologize....There is no such track record, so again, cite your proof, or shut the fuck up.Quote:
You can't offer up any substantive, reasonable reply, other than dole out insults and dismissive, personal comments.Quote:
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When the children stop changing the subject title, maybe they'll be ready for a grown up discussion. But not until then.Quote:
Well, then by your own words:
Another childish dismissal of anything I say, out of hand, w/ out any reasoned, intelligent or honest response to the issue. Quote:
You really should pay attention to your own words; you condemn yourself by them more often than anyone else. You might also think about dropping your recent tactic of calling others "children". First off, it's become boring; second, you just remind us that the only one pretending to take the "moral high ground" by calling others petulant children is YOURSELF.
I'm always amused when the petulant little children pretend they're on the moral high ground and call others petulant children.
You could consider dropping the "straw man" thing, too, again because you've used it so much it's boring, and the most frequent straw-man arguments are provided by you, as well.
So SHOW us where your initial statement is true, with FACTS, or give it up. You failed once again to make any pertinent points, and merely resorted to calling people names and telling them to shut the fuck up. You also need some new material.
"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10
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Oh, and since you know so little about the path to citizenship in this country, here are some FACTS and CITES:Quote:
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6
There are various naturalization provisions that allow permanent residents (green card holders) to become U.S. citizens. The most common of these provisions is section 316(a) of the INA which allows a person who has been a permanent resident for at least 5 years to apply for naturalization.
To be eligible for naturalization under section 316(a) of the INA, an applicant must:
Be 18 or older
Be a permanent resident (green card holder) for at least 5 years immediately preceding the date of filing the Form N-400, Application for Naturalization
Have lived within the state, or USCIS district with jurisdiction over the applicant’s place of residence, for at least 3 months prior to the date of filing the application
Have continuous residence in the United States as a permanent resident for at least 5 years immediately preceding the date of the filing the application
Be physically present in the United States for at least 30 months out of the 5 years immediately preceding the date of filing the application
Reside continuously within the United States from the date of application for naturalization up to the time of naturalization
Be able to read, write, and speak English and have knowledge and an understanding of U.S. history and government (civics).
Be a person of good moral character, attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States during all relevant periods under the law
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Anyone from any country has to go through the procedures to become first a green-card holder, then a naturalized citizen, THEN a citizen. I know, my mother was a naturalized citizen who immigrated from France. Don't bullshit me about the path to citizenship, I know more than you do. And don't pretend it's different for immigrants from South, to become citizens (if proper immigration reform is ever created), they go to the END OF THE LINE to start that process.Quote:
is also false. Illegal or not, you have to abide by the same laws as citizens. I know THAT, too; Jo came here and stayed illegally and if she'd broken the law, would have been deported the same as any other illegal.
people who want into this country to abide by the very laws which CITIZENS are expected to follow
You can find details on applying for naturalization, becoming a permanent resident or petitioning for family members, citizenship via marriage or birth, at the same site.
"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10
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it occurs to me that the only people who are for fairness are liars and losers. everyone is for victory--fairness only enters into our minds, or leaves our mouths, when we are losing and envious that the other guy has the advantage. so no, the left isn't for fairness.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I guess you think that gives you good enough cover to slip out of the thread?
Since when does he need a cover to tuck tail and run?
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Yeah, Mincing, you're right again. Only the Right does it too...does that make the Left equally awful, or do we get points 'cuz their whining is so much louder? Do we get points for not tucking tail and running? Surely we get points for SOMETHING! Otherwise it's not fair, is it?
"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10
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Say, um, Rapster - Are you saying you have NEVER changed any thread titles? Or are you saying that you're as childish as all those "petulant children" you accuse of being so very childish.
By the way, did someone change the thread title? I'm not seeing it.
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They changed it to "I thought the RIGHT was for FAIRNESS. Guess not."
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You could consider dropping the "straw man" thing, too, again because you've used it so much it's boring, and the most frequent straw-man arguments are provided by you, as well.
You mean like when he said that if you opposed Arizona's new immigration law, that meant that you supported open borders, drug runners, rapists, murderers, and thugs?
Nawwww... THAT doesn't sound like a straw man, does it? Hell, it sounds like such a huge straw man, they should call it a BURNING MAN!
Mike
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
They changed it to "I thought the RIGHT was for FAIRNESS. Guess not."
Well, that's just preposterous! NOBODY ever thought the Right was for "fairness". That's a ludicrous idea at its very core!
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