It’s over: MPs say the special relationship with US is dead
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UPDATED: Friday, August 29, 2025 15:36
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RAPPY- Let me explain this in terms you might understand
Quote:Yeah???
We're not the bully
If we're such "good guys", rescuing poor benighted countries from the tyranny of.. whatever... why does everyone hate us so much?
And I'm not talking about Russia and and China, with whom we might contend for spheres of influence. I'm talking about Joe and Jane Average, in East Timor, or (pick any nation south of the border), the Philippines, most of the Mideast, and a lot of Africa.
Why does YANKEE GO HOME! strike such a chord with average people, everywhere around the world?
Shit, man, if we were such good guys you'd think we've be welcomed with open arms, instead of feared and reviled.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Castro and Chavez have done far more for their people than "our" dictators have.
If by having " done far more for their people " you mean silencing, killing and oppressing them, then yes, we agree.
Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor
Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Castro and Chavez have done far more for their people than "our" dictators have.
If by having " done far more for their people " you mean silencing, killing and oppressing them, then yes, we agree.
Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor
Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."
Are you trying to claim the US hasn't been heavily involved in silencing, killing and oppressing " any opposition to its handpicked tyrants ?
BWHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
Next thing you know you will be trying to sell me a ticket to the Gay Nazi Ball
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Fast Forward Twenty Years into the future...
No wait, the US doesn't have a space program anymore... shut down for bully money
maybe India will be welcomed lol
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
What, that throwing your influence around is okay, but when other folk try to influence you the same frigging way you call foul
It is something like punching a bully in the mouth
ask Frem, maybe he'll explain it to you
We're not the bully. That's what you're not getting. If WE didn't " influence " the world, someone else would.
That doesn't make us "not the bully". Pointing out that if we didn't bully other people, someone else would, is not the same as your claiming that we're no bully.
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Would you prefer Communist China ? Or maybe state terrorism leading Iran ? Or any number of little thug dictators, from Hugo to Castro, running the show.
Would we get REAL healthcare reform then?
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We're one of the last true beacons of hope for the world. Even with our mistakes and screw ups. Far better us adding our influence than others. But you seem to think, naively as possible, that if we left well enough alone, then there'd be no troubles, anywhere, what so ever.
And you seem to think, naively as possible, that everything we do is for the best, that we're always for "freedom", despite mountains of evidence laid at your feet. The U.S. is ALWAYS out only for what's best for the U.S.; we don't give a fuck about the rest of the world, except as it impacts our business interests.
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
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Quote:You poor, deluded, ignoramus. If you'd pull your head out of your ass once in a while you'd know that WE taught torture techniques to the worst dictators in the world, that WE set up Pinochet and Saddam (YEP) and the Shah of Iran and a host of other dictators who far exceeded... in terms of brutality and death.... anything that Castro or Chavez has ever done.
If by having " done far more for their people " you mean silencing, killing and oppressing them, then yes, we agree.
The people worked over with hand drills, high voltage, hungry rats, beatings, hot oil, child rape, suffocation, acids and caustics? All done by "our" dictators. That's on us.
WE set up Savak. "Chief CIA Iran analyst Jesse Leaf in an interview on 6th Jan. 1979 stated that the CIA teaches Nazi torture techniques to SAVAK". Torture methods: electric shock, whipping, beating, inserting broken glass and pouring boiling water into the rectum, tying weights to the testicles, and the extraction of teeth and nails
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK
The tens of thousand of desparacidos (disappeareds) in Argentina, Colombia, Honduras, etc"? That's on us.
The hundred thousand East Timorese gunned down, beaten, and tortured? On us.
Jeez, Rappy, why the FUCK do you think that people really, REALLY hate us? It's not because we're so nice!
Yanno, if you really think that we SHOULD be influencing the world, the least you can do is accept responsibility for the outcome, you moronic dickwad.
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Originally posted by SignyM:Quote:You poor, deluded, ignoramus. If you'd pull your head out of your ass once in a while you'd know that WE taught torture techniques to the worst dictators in the world, that WE set up Pinochet and Saddam (YEP) and the Shah of Iran and a host of other dictators who far exceeded... in terms of brutality and death.... anything that Castro or Chavez has ever done.
If by having " done far more for their people " you mean silencing, killing and oppressing them, then yes, we agree.
The people worked over with hand drills, high voltage, hungry rats, beatings, hot oil, child rape, suffocation, acids and caustics? All done by "our" dictators. That's on us.
WE set up Savak. "Chief CIA Iran analyst Jesse Leaf in an interview on 6th Jan. 1979 stated that the CIA teaches Nazi torture techniques to SAVAK". Torture methods: electric shock, whipping, beating, inserting broken glass and pouring boiling water into the rectum, tying weights to the testicles, and the extraction of teeth and nails
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAVAK
The tens of thousand of desparacidos (disappeareds) in Argentina, Colombia, Honduras, etc"? That's on us.
The hundred thousand East Timorese gunned down, beaten, and tortured? On us.
Jeez, Rappy, why the FUCK do you think that people really, REALLY hate us? It's not because we're so nice!
Yanno, if you really think that we SHOULD be influencing the world, the least you can do is accept responsibility for the outcome, you moronic dickwad.
Don't say that to Niki, Signy... she will freak out lol
Thank You for saying it from me though
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You're welcome.
Sometimes the willful ignorance of sheeple like Rappy just makes me want to 
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
me Frem ?
hell I totally agree on that point
All of us, Gino, all of us.
It's all too easy to get caught up in discussion of the larger scale and somehow forget that each and every one of those numbers was a human being.
But I want folk to know it, to acknowledge it, and realize, really realize, the true depths of horror within that knowledge.
-F
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
me Frem ?
hell I totally agree on that point
All of us, Gino, all of us.
It's all too easy to get caught up in discussion of the larger scale and somehow forget that each and every one of those numbers was a human being.
But I want folk to know it, to acknowledge it, and realize, really realize, the true depths of horror within that knowledge.
-F
Especially if they're going to keep trying to play the sympathy card with that "2974" line, as if 2974 Americans are automatically worth a thousand times more than anyone else.
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions
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