Firefly Chinese Translations

Correct characters for Serenity

POSTED BY: pingjing
UPDATED: Monday, April 4, 2005 23:02
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Friday, July 2, 2004 8:48 PM

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Now just one more question...what I have written is the traditional version of jing, but shouldn't there be ping too? And if ping is missing, does the meaning change?



The meaning doesn't quite change. "Jing" is the keyword here, because it can mean quiet, still, serene, etc. But usually "jing" is qualified with "ping" when translating "serenity." Having just the character "jing" broadens the meaning.

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Saturday, July 3, 2004 1:00 AM

And all my questions are answered. Thank you so much, ae660, you're awesome.

Julia

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Wednesday, July 7, 2004 12:31 AM

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And all my questions are answered. Thank you so much, ae660, you're awesome.

Julia



So, if you got those "other" characters in simplified form, I think you'd be ready for the movie.

The new set pictures in today's Serenity blog show the clapboard with "SERENITY" and ning2jing4 (tranquility, tranquil)--not the ping2jing4 (tranquil) shown in the series pilot. Then there was the pre-show crew sweatshirt qi2 (peace and happiness).

Who can keep up?

http://www.serenitymovie.com/blog/index.php
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MOVIE: 宁静

ning2
http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=5B81

jing4
http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=9759
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SERIES: 平静

ping2
http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=5E73

jing4
http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=9759

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PRE-SHOW (crew sweatshirt): 祇

qi2
http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/GetUnihanData.pl?codepoint=7947


Ying
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Friday, March 11, 2005 7:11 PM

A lot has been said about the Chinese language and though it might have already been covered in another thread, since the question of dialects was raised I just want to make it clear that Chinese has a uniform written system and hundreds of spoken forms. OK, it really has a simplified and traditional written system but they are at its roots the same language. Being Chinese myself and having travelled throughout China, you learn very quickly that each region and subregion has their own dialect and subdialects, of which Cantonese is just one. What unifies the country together is Mandarin which was specificallly designed in more ancient times to be the trade language. Today it remains the most spoken dialect in China. In business it joins English and Shanghaiese which is the dialect in the city of Shanghai as the languages of commerce.

The proliferation of Cantonese in the U.S. is due directly to the source of the dialect being the closest city to Hong Kong. Many people from Guangzhou (whose dialect is known as guangdong hua and whose city was known as Canton to foreigners) fled to Hong Kong during the Communist take over in China in the 50s. Prior to do that, bachelors left the Guangdong region to travel to the U.S. to work and send money home, most notably in the railroads from California eastward. In time, Hong Kong, which has always traditionally enjoyed a very strong Cantonese influence, became a blossoming trade center under British rule and the weigh station to the U.S. and Britain for refugees fleeing Communist China. Keep in mind that most Chinese speak more than one dialect of Chinese- usually Mandarin + their local dialect. Which they favor varies by individual but it's not uncommon for Educated Chinese to know as many as 3 or 4 dialects including Mandarin.

But I digress. Anyways, many Chinese communities in the U.S. spoke Cantonese since their communities were originally from places in Guangdong province where Guangzhou (Canton) is located. Hence the strong Cantonese presence in Chinatowns across America.

Do not make the mistake in thinking that Cantonese is some kind of commoner dialect and Mandarin some kind of refined dialect. Both perceptions are wrong. Mandarin is the mainstream dialect in China and the dialect they teach in all the schools. Cantonese is a provincial dialect that Beijing has been trying hard to stamp out, along with all the other local dialects in China. Its strong presence here in the U.S. is a result of where the refugees from China came from as a result of Mao.

I hope this helps people understand the presence of Cantonese and how the dialects propagated where they are now.

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