Dollhouse

The Hollow Men

POSTED BY: Schism
UPDATED: Friday, January 22, 2010 16:15
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ECGORDON

Sunday, January 17, 2010 3:44 PM

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Originally posted by Schism:
How's this?

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I'm not talking about your signature line, I meant your profile page. Go back to the homepage and look for the "My Firefly" link just below the rotating quote box. It should be third from the right, between "Marketplace" and "Research." Click on that, then on "Edit Profile" in the Member Options box. You can click on anyone's username in one of the threads to read their profile.

SCHISM

Monday, January 18, 2010 1:19 AM

But my solution was much more direct and simple.
:p

EDIT -> I'm an Analyst. I can't help it.

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BYTEMITE

Monday, January 18, 2010 1:35 AM

I like that Alpha idea, although even though I was wrong about Boyd being THE Big Bad, it still seems odd to me that he would personally go and oversee Echo's growth. Plus all his fighting skills and infiltration ability make him seem like he was augmented. I think there's another Boyd/Head of Rossum out there.

I think the double whammy of a remote wipe everyone war between Alpha and Rossum could be catastrophic, though.

FEARTHEBUNNYMAN

Monday, January 18, 2010 2:17 AM

I just want to pop in to say: I am officially in love with Amy Ackers. I haven't seen Angel (yet) but goddamn she's incredible. I actually like Hollow Men - I've been pretty lukewarm on DH but the whole series is just picking up speed, picking up speed...and "Whiskey's" continuously blowing me away. I did see the Boyd thing coming, though, from the first time he appeared. he was just *too* sincere...nice to see Eliza back in her element too. Her as a doll was grating.

RAHLMACLAREN

Monday, January 18, 2010 4:50 AM

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Originally posted by Schism:
SPOILERS

Once I got over the shock of Boyd as the big bad, the more hollow and empty it felt.

Hence the title, I guess.

I doubt his true identity was planned from the start...

Anyway, great ep, but what a low budget ending.

Cliche running away from the explosion shot, two seconds later cut to an intact building with nary a bit of smoke.

Shame about Mellie though. But that's what I love about Joss and his chosen writers - they take everything that you know won't happen in typical network shows and do it until it hurts.

*big sigh*

Sadly, I can't disagree with any particular point.

The Boyd thing feels a lot like Buffy S6. Take a beloved character (Spike, funny evil; Boyd, conscience of the show) and turn them into an a$$hole.

So, was "Clyde's partner" an ex-cop? Twice IIRC law enforcement personal pegged Boyd as a cop, first the ATF agent in "True Beliver" and Ballard in "Omega". Or maybe "Boyd" was imprinted with cop skills. And if that was possible, could there also be both a good and bad Boyd.

I could understand if Boyd (and Claire) was captured in "Getting Closer". (He did kill Clive Ambrose after all) They could've tracked Boyd (or just waited outside the DH), and imprinted him with "Clyde's partner", but no. They had to put him in a flashback and fux everything up.

My head's starting to hurt, I'm so gorram confused now.

Now, after they FUBAR'ed Boyd, I'm left with few characters to actually simpathize with.

"We are left hollow."
(Crap, I can't remember who said that.)

*(Whoa, 'Clive' AND 'Clyde'? Yeah...somebody went through the name dictionary.)

ETA: Silver linings - Victor was, once again, damn funny as Topher. Also, the chick fight between Echo and Whiskey(?) was cool, although I would have chosen a larger venue than a tiny corridor.

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LOONEYLAD

Monday, January 18, 2010 4:58 AM

The more I think about Boyd's betrayal, the less I like it as a storyline. It served as one shocking twist and then it was just kind of cliched after that.

I liked Boyd as a good guy. I really, really did. But the "Big Bad" twist had the potential to be awesome, but it kind of missed. Probably because they most likely made the twist up when they were writing The Attic episode. If there was even the subtlest of clues that Boyd was evil, then this could have been awesome. If they showed some sort of flash back and fleshed out the depth of his plot. Instead, he was just pretty much insane the whole time...

LOONEYLAD

Monday, January 18, 2010 4:58 AM

SCHISM

Monday, January 18, 2010 8:38 PM

I agree with LooneyLad.

Both times.

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GWEK

Monday, January 18, 2010 9:57 PM

I'm not really opposed to the Boyd-as-Big Bad twist (although he seemed increasingly unhinged through the episode). I imagine that if DOLLHOUSE had continued for another season (or a full season?), we would either have had a different spin or else more clue to get us there. I feel like the past few episodes have been pretty good, but often very rushed.

One thing that I haven't been too happy with this season is how they de-clawed many of the Dollhouse staff to make them more sympathetic (DeWitt and Topher especially).

Mellie's death: So not a surprise. As soon as she and Paul are "together" again, you know one of them's not making it out of the building. This is a Whedon production, after all...

As for the building standing after the explosion, perhaps that's symbolic of how despite the defeat of Boyd and his master plan, Rossum Corporation still stands. "Evil" cannot be so easily defeated (echoes of ANGEL).

I'm looking forward to the finale. It'll be interesting to see how much of the previous season's "Future Past" episode they stick with. For example, based on what we heard before, the "Doll Wars" are started by China, right? So the fact that Boyd's endmage was stoppoed but the Brain-pocalyse still happened is no real surprise.

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

GILLIANROSE

Monday, January 18, 2010 10:03 PM

Is anyone else a teeny bit suspicious that Boyd didn't blow up at all? He knew about Carolyn's magical spinal fluid, he could have inoculated himself long ago.