Did Kirk's rather *enthusiastic* execution of Nero bug you?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, January 16, 2010 17:01
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Kirk.
Starfleet Captain.
Starfleet's finest.
....
Goofing on the guys he's about to kill...?
Not sorry for for believing he HAS to do it?
Has this alternate reality created a Kirk I can't look up to any more? Just another angry angsty texting post-teen that revels in his justifiable excesses?
Or did Nero REALLY ASK for it? 
The Prime Directive Chrisisall
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It bothered me a lot too, but I put it off to the signs of the times we're in, and the generation that has matured with the "revenge is our right" motif since 9/11. They're not looking any further for wisdom than their own adrenal glands. It made good box office receipts now, but will be hopefully replaced by something more worthy of Roddenberry in the future when some of our insanity ends.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Kirk.
Starfleet Captain.
Starfleet's finest.
....
Goofing on the guys he's about to kill...?
Not sorry for for believing he HAS to do it?
Has this alternate reality created a Kirk I can't look up to any more? Just another angry angsty texting post-teen that revels in his justifiable excesses?
Or did Nero REALLY ASK for it?
This would be the same kirk that spent most of his time having fist fights in some sand?
He's a post 9/11 Kirk.
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Nero's crimes:
Killed the Captain of The Kelvin.
Fired on and destroyed The Kelvin, killing dozens before they escaped.
Attacked and destroyed 47 Klingon ships, likely killing thousands.
Destroyed 6 Federation starships and their crews of thousands.
Destroyed Vulcan, killing 6 billion people.
Attempted destruction of the Earth.
Tortured Captain Pike.
Nero was a madman, killing billions of people for no reason. Kirk offered rescue to Nero when the red matter was creating a black hole that was consuming the his ship. Nero refused. Kirk then had no choice but to finish the job, to save his own ship and crew, and to avoid allowing the possible escape by Nero that would have led to additional attacks on the Federation.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Goofing on the guys he's about to kill...?
Not sorry for for believing he HAS to do it?
Has this alternate reality created a Kirk I can't look up to any more? Just another angry angsty texting post-teen that revels in his justifiable excesses?
Or did Nero REALLY ASK for it?
These are questions that might bother me if they pertained to real Star Trek but since that flashy, shaky mess wasn't Trek and that angry, teenaged, afternoon special actor wasn't Kirk, I'm not worried about it at all.
-e
I pray for one last landing,
on the globe that gave me birth.
Let me rest my eyes on the fleecy skies
and the cool, green hills of Earth.
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Not the first time.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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First time he's done it while not wearing a girdle.
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ahem, girdle notwithstanding, the entire movie irked me... the whole fancy-schmancy, techno-centric, gee whiz, CGI heavy-handed feeling was a far cry from the cardboard cutout Trek i grew up with .... guess i just like the kitch
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Goofing on the guys he's about to kill...?
I took that for a genuine offer of rescue - albeit one that Kirk assumed would be rejected.
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Not sorry for for believing he HAS to do it?
My Name is James Tiberius Kirk. You killed my Father. Prepare to die...
Seriously - I prefer that to the usual Hollywood trope where the Black Hat conveniently contrives to fall off the roof so the Good Guy doesn't have to kill him. Yet the Good Guy has happily slaughtered legions of disposable goons to get to this point...
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Sorry, but I'm not gonna fault Kirk for acting at least somewhat out of emotions. As Jongsie pointed out, it wasn't as if Nero weren't practically begging for it. Spock might be able to control his emotions, if the green-blooded goblin even HAS any, but Kirk is a human, and suffers from human emotions. In this instance, I'd say he was well within his rights.
Kinda like asking if it would be okay to take just a little grim pleasure in pulling the trigger on Hitler if you had him in your sights. I don't care who ya are, that would probably feel pretty damned good, and pretty damned justified.
Mike
Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde
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